RE: My response to the e-mail address harvesters working thislis t -- MIDRANGE-L

Marty,

I totally understand the frustration (who doesn't) but the whole business of
address harvesting is a very old and accepted business practise that, should
it be stopped, would probably have you howling mad too.  

For example, have you ever accepted a "free professional subscription" to a
magazine?  Do you realize that the ONLY reason for a publisher to offer you
a free subscription is so they can sell your name to other businesses.
They're not trying to do you a favor.  They want to sell you to their
advertisers.  Sometimes, these publishers exist primarily on the proceeds of
their "list sales" activities, not the paid subscriber base, which almost
certainly operates at a loss unless the circulation is very large. Without
the list sales income, most of these industry specific magazines would not
exist....

Email address harvesting is just a new twist on the same old theme, just
much easier and potentially cheaper.  Because it's exclusively an electronic
medium, much of the collection activities can be automated and performed
in-house. 

I don't know that I disagree with your sentiments, I just feel it's
impossible to avoid. 

Eric DeLong
Sally Beauty Company
MIS-Project Manager (BSG)
940-898-7863 or ext. 1863



-----Original Message-----
From: Urbanek, Marty [mailto:Marty_Urbanek@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 12:36 PM
To: 'midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: Re: My response to the e-mail address harvesters working this
lis t


"... if you should happen to get an email from Snap-eBooks it's because you
either visited our site and provided us with your email address or you
visited the site of one of our business associates and provided them with
your email address ..."

Just so you and other "upstanding businesses" know, if and when I provide
you with my email addr it is because I want something from YOUR company, not
your "business associates" and when I provide my mail addr to one of your
"business associates" it is not because I want to receive emails from you.

A big part of the spam problem is businesses sharing these addresses which
are given to you in confidence.

Thanks,
-Marty

-----Original Message-----
From: Shannon O'Donnell [mailto:sodonnell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:17 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: My response to the e-mail address harvesters working this
list


Just so you know....and to avoid any confusion/ill will....

My company, Snap-eBooks, Inc. is NOT harvesting email names from this list,
or any other list for that matter.  I wouldn't condone that in the first
place...but more imporantly...who has the time to go through and add all the
names this way anyway!?!

It takes all of my effort just to work for full time for a living AND run a
company AND do the 99 other things I have to do each week. There's no time
for sleazy business practices such as email harvesting such as this...

So, if you should happen to get an email from Snap-eBooks it's because you
either visited our site and provided us with your email address or you
visited the site of one of our business associates and provided them with
your email address, but NOT because you participated in an online forum such
as this.


Shannon O'Donnell
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