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Tom, I suppose that could be what is happening, but how can I prove it or for that matter observe that it is happening other than the user says it is going slow! -----Original Message----- From: Tom Jedrzejewicz @ San Pedro [mailto:TJedrzejewicz@contessa.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 12:43 PM To: midrange-l@midrange.com Subject: Re: Intermittent delay on a table insert. Could you possibly have contention issues with the data queue? >>> Howard.Weatherly@dla.mil 02/05/03 07:30AM >>> Folks, We have an intermittent bottleneck that I am trying to identify. The problem appears with no unusual activity happening and no pattern as to time. The scenario is this: 1. GUI application processes changes against DB2 tables, things are swift in all cases up to the last item which is to insert a row (length 34) into a table which has an insert/ after trigger. a. Intermittently this last step takes for-ever! and about 5 or more minutes. 2. Trigger Program does two things, a. RTVJOBNBR and b. QSNDDTAQ then ends. 3. Back End process involves a daemon type program which monitors it's data queue (there are three, Prod, Qual and Test) and has a sleep time of 4. a. When an entry is found, the daemon does (Call "DISPATCHPGM" using Trigger Data then loops back looking for another queue entry. -- History -- This scheme came about because we could not have the GUI userid and password accessing the DB, they simply have no access! (govt' thing!) SO this allowed us to set up the next part of the back end process with the userid and passwords that we needed. 4. Dispatch program looks at the trigger data and determines what action to take. a. All actions are initiated by a QCMDEXC which is a SBMJOB to the (Prod, Qual or Test) environment, each with its own set of priorities. We can look at the back end and see that it moves quite nicely into it's own subsystem. We use the MAXJOBS value as a throttle to allow up to 4 instances of any of the dispatched jobs. Also we can see that the GUI moves nicely up to the point where the row is added to the Trigger table (using ODBC) most time this is quick. Now I have been asked if there could be a commit cycle that is causing the problem, but from my point of view there is no DB activity until after the jobs are dispatched. So my question is there any need (or does it even care) in the QSNDDTAQ part about commits? Is there any other suggestions anyone has as to this intermittent delay? Oh, I should mention that the GUI is in contention for tables but not the trigger table, the only contention on the Trigger table would be between the users of the GUI and the dispatched programs. The dispatched programs are DRDA cross platform 2 phase commit between the AS/400 and the Amdahl. The Trigger Table is the only table that is updated on the AS/400, all other tables are simply accessed to gather data to update the mainframe and in those cases where multiple rows would result, we used data queues instead of cursor processing to keep things as fast as possible. ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Howard Weatherly Systems Advisor Computer Task Group, Inc. howard.weatherly@dla.mil howard_weatherly@ameritch.net Howard.Weatherly@ctg.com _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. THIS MESSAGE IS INTENDED ONLY FOR THE USE OF THE INDIVIDUAL OR ENTITY TO WHICH IT IS ADDRESSED AND MAY CONTAIN INFORMATION THAT IS PRIVILEGED, CONFIDENTIAL AND EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE UNDER APPLICABLE LAW. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, downloading, storing or forwarding of this communication is prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately via email and delete the message from your computer files and/or data base. Thank you. _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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