RE: Change from mirror to RAID -- MIDRANGE-L

Thanks for the tip.  I am printing this out and taping it to the box.  We
are adding the 7117 in 2 weeks.
cjg

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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@midrange.com
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Chris Bipes
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:27 AM
To: 'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'
Subject: RE: Change from mirror to RAID


Douglas,

Do what you said will take way to long.  Here are the steps I would take; 1.
Stop mirroring on all drives.  This will double your capacity. 2. Remove the
3rd and 4th drives from the ASP. 3. Physically move the 3rd and 4th drives
to the 7117 and all the new drives. 4. Build a raid set on the 6102
including all the drives. 5. Add the newly configured drives / raid set to
the ASP. 6. Start mirroring back up on the 1st and 2nd drives. 7. The system
is now available for use and you can start your ASP balancing in the
background.

Douglas is correct in stating that the MFIOP on a model 400 cannot be
RAIDED.  I would/do mirror the load source and raid the 6502.  Raid striping
is either 4 or 8 drives so you will see 4 drives with less capacity and the
2 remaining drives at full capacity.

Trying to add drives to an existing raid set that is part of the ASP can
take 24+ hours on a model 400.  Yet it is only minutes to build a raid set
on drives that are not in an ASP.  If you ever add drives to the raid set,
it is best to stop the raid set, add the drives, then rebuild the raid set.

Christopher K. Bipes      mailto:Chris.Bipes@Cross-Check.com
Operations & Network Mgr  mailto:Chris_Bipes@Yahoo.com
CrossCheck, Inc.          http://www.cross-check.com
6119 State Farm Drive     Phone: 707 586-0551 x 1102
Rohnert Park CA  94928    Fax: 707 586-1884



-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Handy [mailto:dhandy1@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:21 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Change from mirror to RAID


Carl,

>I have a model 400 that ...  I will be adding a 7117 expansion cabinet 
>to
...

>I would like to RAID all 8 drives in the same RAID set.  Can I do it 
>...?

The model 400, like my 40S with a 7117, does not support RAID on the MFIOP.
Only the drives in the 7117 expansion may be in the RAID set.   You may want
to
consider moving the 2nd paid or 6607's from the MFIOP to the 7117 expansion
since it will hold up to 8 drives.

Leave one pair in the MFIOP to mirror the load source (yielding 4GB
protected), and six drives in the 7117 in a single RAID set (yielding 20GB
protected) for a total capacity of around 24GB.

If you leave the second mirrored pair on the MFIOP, you end up with about
20GB total protected space (4 + 4 + 12).

As far as I can tell from playing with various drive configurations on my
40S, where I currently have twelve 6606 drives, the 6502 will support
anywhere from 4 to 8 drives in a RAID set.  But the actual RAID stripping
seems to be across exactly 4 or 8 drives.  If you establish a RAID set of 6
drives, it will make four of them 75% capacity and the other two 100%
capacity when you look at the actual distribution.

I don't think this has much practical effect on distribution of disk arm
utilization, but it does mean you have a pretty simple way of migrating two
drives from the MFIOP to the 6502 RAID set.  Since the RAID stripping will
be across just four drives whether or not you initially put six drives in
the 7117, just install the 7117 and the four new drives first.  Configure
the RAID set, raising your system to 20GB effective capacity.

Now remove the 3rd & 4th drives on the MFIOP from the configuration.  The
system will migrate the data to the remaining disks (ie, the four new ones
since they have less usage than the first mirrored pair).  Once the data is
transferred, remove the drives, install in the 7117, and add to the RAID
set.  This will raise your effective capacity to 24GB.

Then balance the drive usage with STRASPBAL.
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