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I'm currently working on a suite of reports for a BPCS user and using SQL is really simplifiying the RPG coding because with some careful thought its possible to get a result set with one admittedly quite complex sql statement that would have required pages of SQL code. However, I have seen SQL cripple the BPCS G/L where huge datasets are involved because of poorly coded SQL or simply because its being used where its not suited to the task required and Native I/O is much quicker. If I'm looking for the existence of a given record in a file and that record can be identified by a logical key then I'll use chain over a SQL select approach any day. There will always be occaisions - however a database has been designed: SQL fully relational from the ground up or not - that you will need to check the existence of a record as a one off. In these cases on iSeries uitilisng RPG400/IV/ILE a Native I/O can be the more effecient solution. I always have a simplistic view of SQL selects that runs as follows: SQL will look at the whole contents of the file and throw away the ones that don't match the select whereas with Native I/O my simplistic view of the chain on a logical file is that its like looking at the Index page of a book, it can position rapidly to the area its interested in and search from there eg Q then read from Quaint to Queer and stop as soon as it finds a matching record I want. Joining multiple files with SQL is great if you code the statements correctly but I've seen some real dogs breakfasts in the past and with some judicuous/obvious corrections made massive improvements in performance of a given statement. I think its perhaps easier to write awful SQL based code than Native IO code. I've not played with RI or cascading deletes other than in simple MS Access based systems and wouldn't like to comment on its application. I'll use a mix and match approach to SQL/Native IO as the need arises based on the data volumes, means of identifying the recordsets etc. They're both techniques to have in my toolbox and and to discard Native IO and use solely SQL would be throwing out the baby with the dishwater. Finally, if building a new system from the ground up then an SQL based database with RI would be worth a serious look but when amending/adding functionality to a DDS based system I think that using SQL tables, views, indexes and creating a hybrid system has the makings of a maintenance nightmare. When I code programs I may sacrifice possible performance advantages for ease of maintainablity - ie don't do something the smart-arse way just because you can because it may not be you that comes in later to make amendments (or heaven forfend fix a bug ;-) ) and I think that approach applies system wide. my two pence worth Graham
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