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Rob, >You mean like OVRDBF INPUT and OVRDBF OUTPUT on the FTP command? Yes, that is an example of redirection. Piping is conceptually similar, but takes the output of one command and automatically feeds it as the input to another. This allows simple filters like "more", and more elaborate filters like "sed" or "grep". The beauty of *nix redirection and piping is its simplicity at the command level, and the fact that most *nix commands use stdin and stdout. Using OVRDBF with FTP is very much the exception, not the norm. Sure, you can override about anything, when you know the names. But since commands are not typically dealing with stream I/O, it often does not yield the same flexibility. So we at times add code to the program itself so you can request *, *Print, or *Outfile support (as an example). But as others have said, the two platforms are just different paradigms and have their respective strengths and weaknesses. I still prefer the 400 for coding business solutions. But as a command line junkie and propeller head, the stuff you can do with ad hoc commands under *nix is pretty amazing. Doug
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