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Matt, You are correct as far as the DB journal receiver is concerned. When a audit journal receiver reaches its maximum size, auditing is terminated. The system will set the system value of audit control to *NONE. The OS will continue on. QSYSOPR will be notified that auditing has been terminated. William J. Finch Senior Services Consultant Lakeview Technology Home Office: (702) 256-4309 Fax: (702) 256-4315 Cell: (630) 215-4675 E-mail to finchb@lakeviewtech.com "Tyler, Matt" <mattt@wincofoods. To: "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com> com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: Library trigger midrange-l-admin@m idrange.com 10/10/2002 08:10 AM Please respond to midrange-l William, Unfortunately, I can only speak of the horrors of journal receivers form the database journal pint of view. They tend to fill up the fastest. We have a mirroring product that set ours to user control with out notifying us and the receivers filled up. Nothing else that used those database objects was allowed to occur. Programs all over the system can to an immediate halt. I would assume all journaling operates the same. Thank you, Matt Tyler Mattt@wincofoods.com -----Original Message----- From: finchb@lakeviewtech.com [mailto:finchb@lakeviewtech.com] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 08:59 To: midrange-l@midrange.com Cc: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'; midrange-l-admin@midrange.com Subject: RE: Library trigger Leland, Matt is almost correct in his statement that all comes to a halt if a journal receiver reaches its maximum size (2gb or 1tb depending on how it is configured). When the audit journal receiver reaches its maximum size, audit control system value is set to *NONE and auditing is turned off. Letting the system manage the generating of new receivers at a specific threshold is a good thing. The system manage deletion of journal receivers could cause an opportunity that you may not want to have. If you delete a receiver that has not been examined for entries (i.e. T-CO for you create object), you cannot recover that entry. I would also recommend to set the size of the audit journal receiver, if you have enough room on disk, to 1.5gb minimum. Journal receiver generation has system overhead attached to it, the more it changes and generates a new receiver, the worse the performance. Hope this helps and have fun with journaling, William J. Finch Senior Services Consultant Lakeview Technology Home Office: (702) 256-4309 Fax: (702) 256-4315 Cell: (630) 215-4675 E-mail to finchb@lakeviewtech.com "Tyler, Matt" <mattt@wincofoods. To: "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com> com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: Library trigger midrange-l-admin@m idrange.com 10/10/2002 07:43 AM Please respond to midrange-l Leland, It depends, on how much work you want to put into managing the journal. If you "user manage" you will need to write a program that can be scheduled to manage receivers before they fill up. Once a receiver fills up nothing else happens on the system for objects that create entries to that journal. Programs can halt. Using the system just requires you to write programming to manage the receivers after they have been filled and marked as online (not currently being added to). Leaving receivers there can eat your DASD in a hurry. If you need those journals for future auditing, save them to tape/optical and then delete them, otherwise just delete them. Thank you, Matt Tyler Mattt@wincofoods.com -----Original Message----- From: Leland, David [mailto:dleland@Harter.com] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 07:25 To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com' Subject: RE: Library trigger This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This is perfect. Now, one question about the QAUDJRN journal - should this be system managed or user managed? Mine is currently set to user managed but I think that's just because I created it some time ago when system management was not an option. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Vernon Hamberg [mailto:vhamberg@attbi.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:19 PM To: midrange-l@midrange.com Subject: Re: Library trigger Dave It's possible to use security auditing, I think. You can set it up to get an entry on a DTAQ every time something is added to the audit journal. The CO entry type is for 'Create object'. You could wait on the DTAQ and filter the entries for the library you're interested in. Somewhat brute force, I supoose, but you can limit the kinds of entries collected, to some extent. Of course, that is a never-ending-program, but IMO fairly low-impact - and the system notifies it automatically. Regards Vern At 03:14 PM 10/9/02 -0500, you wrote: >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. >-- >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >Anyone know of a way (outside of having a constantly running monitor >program) to automatically trigger an event when an object is placed in a >library? I would like to create a library that, when a user creates a file >in it (typically using Query), a trigger program of some type would >automatically FTP that file somewhere. > >Dave >_______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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