Re: Batch job that will signon and interactive session on DSP01 as QSECOFR -- MIDRANGE-L

Hi Jorge

My experience is that you will have to leave the console signed on and
waiting on some kind of trigger to proceed with the backup process. The
SAVSYS *HAS* to be done interactively so batch is simply not an option.

The options I can think of are to use a break handling program (as you
suggested), have the console program wait on a dataqueue or to just have
the program wait for a period of time or until a time. Using the break
message or data queue options you can trigger the backup to start from the
job scheduler or some other batch/system management process if that is what
you are after.

The break handling option has some merit in that you will probably have to
do this in some form anyway as both of the other methods need to ensure
that any messages received by the console are handled. If you have an
interactive job running on the console waiting until midnight tomorrow and
someone sends a break message to all work stations your program will hang
until the message is dealt with.

By the way I have written something like this myself - using the timer
method - and got it to work so I am not just idly speculating. At the time
I was in the fortunate position of having a system to experiment on and
ample time to work through as many of the wrinkles as I could. I have since
used BRMS (for other reasons) and have found that it's console function -
required for exactly this scenario - works like a charm.

I would seriously weigh up BRMS against what you need to do - by the time I
had added all the functions I needed to make the whole shebang work as a
generic process for multiple systems - and this included control file
driven, optional day, week, and month end processing (before and after),
different backup regimes and scheduling and housekeeping control schedules
- I had duplicated (no doubt in a basic sense) many functions BRMS provided.

Hope this helps

regards
Evan Harris

Hello List Members -

My question is pretty simple and it has to do with a Batch Job been able to
"somehow"
signon to an interactive session on DSP01 (System Console) directly
attached to the iSeries (AS/400)
with the user profile of QSECOFR

And the reason for this requirement . . . : "Weekly unattended backup of
the entire machine"
That includes Save of System, Save of *NONSYS Libraries, Save of
Configuration data,
Save of Security data, Save of Folders, Save of IFS, Save of Licensed
Programs.

I know of some vendors that can be of help. However budget restrictions do
not allow that to happen.

Here are a list of the case scenarios I have been able to consider.


Case 1.
I know that a break message handler program will work if the DSP01
"interactive session"
has already been established with the profile of QSECOFR.

Case 2.
I think if there is a different DSP01 "interactive session"  with a user
profile different to QSECOFR.
Probably thru one of the Security APIs I can change that and I am back to
case 1.

Case 3.
There are no "interactive sessions" at all

Your ideas will be appreciated.


Jorge Moreno
Systems Analyst
Overseas Military car Sales
Woodbury, New York