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PASE is very cheap - $100 for our 270 P05. $50 if a commercial member of
PartnerWorld.

I was told by IBM sales person that it's bundled with v5r2.

They have had to charge for it, because of licensing from Berkeley. Must be
folding it into v5r2 costs.

WebSphere Development Studio is in the list for Software Mall - I looked at
the publicly available list. Cost to get Software Mall in US is $575. Don't
know the price in the Mall for WDS - someone suggested it is very cheap -
maybe just manufacturing costs. But you have to be a 3rd-party developer,
AFAIK. Not for regular shops.

At 01:33 PM 6/23/02 -0500, you wrote:
>I think people are using WebSphere Development tools and WebSphere
>Development Studio as if they are the same thing. To me they do not look to
>be the same.
>WDT http://www-3.ibm.com/software/ad/wdt400/
>WDS http://www-3.ibm.com/software/ad/wds400/
>WDT looks to be for the person who just wants the workstation software
>http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?cntrfnbr=1&cgmenbr=1&cntry=840&lang=en_US&scrfnbr=73&cgrfnbr=2181221&x=12&y=10
>WDS is also the host software (compilers)
>http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?cntrfnbr=1&cgmenbr=1&cntry=840&lang=en_US&scrfnbr=73&cgrfnbr=2131722&x=8&y=4
>and it does cost $8,200 for a P10, $3,650 for a P05
>
>And it looks like you still have to buy (pay a licensing fee) pase to
>compile C++.
>
>John Ross
>
>At 01:43 PM 6/23/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>  >> Problem is that we need COBOL and a reseller is saying the only way to
>>get COBOL on the AS400 is to buy Websphere for $8,200.
>>
>>The only way to buy _any_ compiler is this way.  You are not buying
>>WebSphere - you are buying WDT - WebSphere Development Tools.  Which means a
>>bundle of SEU, PDM, RPG, COBOL, C, C++, CODE, VARPG, WebSphere Studio,
>>WebFacing, etc.  If you want _one_ compiler on the box, you have to buy all
>>of them.  In fact the one thing you won't get in the package is WebSphere
>>itself!!  I'm surprised that the [package on a 270 is that much - I thought
>>that most 270s were in the P10 group and the cost was lower than that.
>>
>>WebSphere is just IBM's latest marketing "label" and they are sticking it on
>>everything no matter how tenuous the connection.
>>
>>
>>Jon Paris
>>Partner400
>
>
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