RE: Cheaper Servers? -- MIDRANGE-L

... imagine an average laptop computer ... how many times more powerful and
capacious than many of the AS/400 models of old.
... now imagine all those AS/400 / iSeries product salesmen in IBM, BPs,
trying to compete with the Unix and MS based salesmen; ok, which group can
actually demonstrate their products, and with more ease ... and in the
prospects own office?

OS/400 on a laptop would be an incredible marketing tool, every iSeries
salesperson would want one, need one.  It would put them on a level playing
field with those other application vendors.  Even if IBM didn't directly
make a profit from a laptop
iSeries, the increase in sales of larger systems would surely and adequately
compensate.

How many iSeries based home workers are there out in the world?  IBM, give
us a CHEAP and practical laptop / single-user desktop version of OS/400 - if
there is no demand, create one.  Televisions, microwave ovens, mobile
phones, home computers - all inventions that most people don't really need,
but they nearly all have them.

This is another example of IBM falling out of touch with the needs and
desires of their customers.

Jeff Bull

-----Original Message-----
From: jpcarr@tredegar.com [mailto:jpcarr@tredegar.com]
Sent: 09 April 2002 03:06
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: Cheaper Servers?



This is a portion of Newswire and I apologize for presenting a snippet
here,
but I wanted to ask the group,

Given that,  (From Snippet below)

 "IBM's p670 offering is especially affordable because of the
efficiencies gained by sharing processor technology and the
Rochester manufacturing facility with the iSeries,"

If we share the same hardware, and IBM OWNS  OS/400 and AIX
and they are putting relatively the same R&D money into both,

Should the iSeries cost the same as a pSeries  ( +/-   a few $)  ??

Also given; (from snippet below)

"The p670 also targets the same types of consolidation
workloads as the iSeries, with the largest 16-way box able to
support 16 Unix or Linux logical partitions."

Then if the pSeries costs lots less,  wouldn't that give a considerable
marketing advantage to the pSeries?

Maybe a town hall meeting question to who ever is going to COMMON.

John Carr

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IBM RENEWS ATTACK ON MIDRANGE MARKET
http://www.iseriesnetwork.com/nwn/story.cfm?ID=14190

<SNIP>
The midrange space is a reliable, growing market, but IBM and its
competitors have a secondary reason for their renewed interest, says
Sageza Group senior analyst Charles King. "Enterprises have pretty
tight purse strings right now," he says. "[IBM's] Regatta and
[Sun's] Star Cat 15K are both very interesting, very capable high-
end machines, but I think vendors like IBM and Sun may have looked
around and thought, maybe we should come out with something cheaper,
something companies can get by with, that they can actually afford
at this point."

IBM's p670 offering is especially affordable because of the
efficiencies gained by sharing processor technology and the
Rochester manufacturing facility with the iSeries, McGaughan says.
The p670 is priced about 36 percent less than comparable Sun Fire
models 4800 and 6800 and about 20 percent less than comparable HP
RP8400 models. The p670 also targets the same types of consolidation
workloads as the iSeries, with the largest 16-way box able to
support 16 Unix or Linux logical partitions. (That's compared to the
HP 8400 and Sun Fire 4800, which can each support just two
partitions, and the Sun Fire 6800, which can support four.) IBM
expects to have 64-bit Linux running in a pSeries partition in third
quarter.

<SNIP>

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