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And I've been midrange (S/3, 34, 36, 38, 400) since 1980 (oh boy now do I feel old!!!) Mark Allen I.S. Manager Wilkes Telephone & Electric A Dycom Company Phone: (706) 678-9565 Email: allenmark@nu-z.net http://www.nu-z.net :-----Original Message----- :From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com :[mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of Mark Allen :Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:37 PM :To: midrange-l@midrange.com :Subject: RE: Data Corruption / 400 : : :The only tiem I know of was on a 24x7 (hospital) S/38 that got :hit hard by lightning during a peak usage period. After power :restored system took around 48 hrs to IPL (rebuilding access :paths). Once that was done there were some (lee than 10 IIRC) :damaged objects (user files) that had to be srestored from tape. : :Mark Allen :I.S. Manager :Wilkes Telephone & Electric :A Dycom Company :Phone: (706) 678-9565 :Email: allenmark@nu-z.net :http://www.nu-z.net : : : : ::-----Original Message----- ::From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com ::[mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com] On Behalf Of MacWheel99@aol.com ::Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 3:29 PM ::To: AS400 & iSeries & family discussion group; ::starbase_club@bigrivers.com ::Subject: Data Corruption / 400 :: :: ::Has anyone EVER suffered data corruption on their 400 :business :data bases or ever heard of it happening for some :reason other :than failure of hard drives, damaged objects, :human error, :software bugs, PC user in middle of doing some :update & the :connection gets lost & the software was not :written good :enough to recover from that scenario, malicious :activity like :hacker or someone who lost their job & took :improper action? :: ::Feel free to reply to me off list about this. :: ::I have a collegue who is in a heated discussion on in some ::list in the PC Windows Macintosh world. They apparently take ::it for granted that reality is that there are operating :system :crashes all the time that scramble business data. My :friend :says that in his many decades experience in the IBM :world, :this has NEVER happened there. :: ::These Microsoft enthusiasts are flatly disbelieving him ... :it :must be a fluke for him. So he looking for a quick poll :... :how many years experience someone in IBM 400 & its :predecessor :platforms & how many times has this happened to :you? So that :he can then say to these guys ... well X people :in the 400 :community who said they have Y aggregate years :have only heard :of this happening however many times. So if :it is a fluke, :here is how many other people are having that fluke. :: ::In my personal over 40 years in this world, it has only happened once. :: ::We got our % disk space utilization significantly above 100 % ::by accident, during our Y2K conversion in 1998, primarily ::because our estimates for disk space needed for multiple ::Pilots & conversion efforts were too low, related to OS/400 ::math being off on what the M36 was taking, a lot of stuff was ::weird. We didn't care to spend any time figuring it out. :Our :goal was to fix it & fast, which we did. The problem was ::discovered one day. We got it below 100% in less than 24 ::hours, identified corrupted data & recovered it from our backups. :: ::I also remember a hard disk failure from old age ... it was a ::13 years old IBM hard drive & IBM's mean time to failure was ::10 years. IBM helped us map the hole in the drive, so we ::could work around it, such as backups of everything except :the :software that straddled the hole. No business data was lost. :: ::In 1984 at another employer there was a power outage that ::damaged some IBM OS objects on our hard drive, and damaged ::some parts of the hard drive. This was on a S/34 at a 24x7 ::company & it took a week for IBM to do the repairs. Basically ::the business continued running with us not doing some tasks ::like compresses, and 100% of the damaged objects were replaced. :: ::MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac) ::_______________________________________________ ::This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion :(MIDRANGE-L) :mailing list To post a message email: :MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com :To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change :list options, ::visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l ::or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com ::Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives ::at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. :: :: : : :_______________________________________________ :This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) :mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com :To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, :visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l :or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com :Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives :at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. : :
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