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OK Jim, That would be it ! :-) Thanks, Chuck -----Original Message----- Jim Franz depending on version of Synapse or Client Access, telnet is how those products work. CA Express is using telnet. If Synapse is a true tcp-ip product, it's telnet. Now in this attempt experienced this morning, even windows, going to "run" and typing "telnet xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" will run a telnet. jim
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