RE: Remote journals and APYJRNCHG

["Raikov, Lo" <Lo.Raikov@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ken,

could you be more specific please? How can I recover on the source system
using remote journal receiver backups? These receivers would not attach to
any other journal but the initial remote journal, or am I wrong?

Lo

-----Original Message-----
From: Graap, Ken [mailto:keg@nwnatural.com]
Sent: 12 ????? 2002 ?. 8:42
To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
Cc: 'spanner@ihug.co.nz'
Subject: RE: Remote journals and APYJRNCHG



>contortions for the restoring back to the original system scenarios border
>on the ridiculous unless you think that maybe IBM didn't want to kill the
>businesses based on selling replication solutions.

Come on Evan .... A lot of people use remote journaling for recovery
purposes, not just replication.

In a recovery scenario, you would recover the source system, restore remote
journal receivers to the recovered source system and apply journal changes
to recover your data to the point of failure....

I wouldn't call that ridiculous.

The point of remote journaling in this case is to make sure your journaled
transactions are immediately relocated to a remote system which is separated
from your source system.

regards,

Kenneth

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-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Harris [mailto:spanner@ihug.co.nz]
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:19 AM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: Remote journals and APYJRNCHG


Kenneth wrote:

>Normally wouldn't you just restore the receivers back to the source system
>and run APYJRNCHG there?
>
>Kenneth
>Subject: Remote journals and APYJRNCHG

<SNIP>

>Is anybody aware of a tool that would enable you to apply journalled
changes
>registered in a remote journal? What I need is APYJRNCHG version that would
>be capable of running off remote journals.
>
>Lo

Near as I can tell what Lo wants to be able to do is to replicate a file or
set of files onto a remote machine using the remote journalling function.
In my opinion that's the most obvious use for remote journalling - the
contortions for the restoring back to the original system scenarios border
on the ridiculous unless you think that maybe IBM didn't want to kill the
businesses based on selling replication solutions.

Leaving out the ability to apply remote journals on the target remote
journalling system cannot have been an oversight.

If someone has code to read the receiver and apply the changes I would be
interested as well. If it doesn't already exist would make a great Open
source project for the entire Iseries community.

Regards
Evan Harris


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