Gail, I too want to know the answer to Andy's question: Were you using SAVSYS to mean a complete system save, or were you meaning SAVSYS to mean just that - a SAVSYS? The reason I am asking is that we had a system in which the SAVSYS time grew drastically. From 11 minutes to 1:49 minutes. IBM had to really delve into the internals but it was determined that the problem was due to an improper security implementation. We could tell because our nightly backups did not do a SAVSYS but did a SAVSECDTA and that grew drastically. We started using supplemental groups and after this cr*p went to authorization lists really quick. The command IBM ran was PRTPRFINT and noticed a user with many "private authorities". This user was that supplemental group. But they didn't "own" anything thus WRKOBJOWN for that user didn't show dink. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
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