Booth, It's been my experience that if they've had a payroll package around that long, it probably does EVERYTHING they would want a p/r to do. trying to replace it with a cannned package would probably do more harm than good. My advice would be to pick the most brittle parts and re-write them with some post-1980's sensibilities. I (re)wrote a custom package for a heavy equipment services company many years ago. It could do tricks you wouldn't believe. full job costing, multi-state/local taxes, multi-union, with all the accompanying (employer/ee paid)deductions - all in the same week! they had crews that could work on 3 different jobs, three different unions in three different states in a weeks time. A few years ago, they got bought, and "corporate" tried to switch them to thier payroll (peoplesoft). they estimated it would take millions in development costs to duplicate what they have now, and would take years to implement. lucky for them, they were sold again. now the new "corporate" wants to use thier (my - or I wish it was still my) package! Rick ----original message---- Carl, I looked at the Para Research products a few years ago but not recently. At that time it had the typical AS/400 growth pattern - lots of old legacy stuff, lots of RPG, lots of monolithic program designs, lots of energy spent to solve problems that no longer exist. I'm hoping to find something where there is a layer dealing with the data, and a layer above that to deal with the business rules. ADP has advantages, but it certainly isn't the blessing the ADP sales staff would suggest. I'd agree there are some good PC packages but in the end they don't usually tie in well with AS/400 applications. Besides, the client's management's position is that an application that has run without flares, fires, disasters, or catastophes for more than 20 years is not an application to be lightly put aside for an ever-moving target called Windows. There is no application I know that gets more management attention than their own personal paycheck. :)
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