But you need to realize that is where "list community" picks up the slack.

I'm an email list freak.  I am usually only subscribed to about 2-4 at a
time (I usually do fast rotations), but half of the ones I subscribe to I
usually help with (to keep my skills sharp) while the other half are more
for me to get up to par on something.

Some lists are stricter than others.  But most of the lists have been around
a long time, so the leniency showed is what the community of the list allow.

I think ESR's document is more of a rough outline of what someone should
expect, not of how people should make their lists.

And jt, notice no one yet has argued with you on the point of ESR being a
jerk. :)  You probably don't need to keep trying to prove the point. :)

Adam Lang
Systems Engineer
Rutgers Casualty Insurance Company
----- Original Message -----
From: "jt" <jt@ee.net>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 7:40 AM
Subject: RE: *** ADMIN: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

> (I assume you meant "But some, at the same time...")
> The key to getting good idea flow is finding the proper balance of
> tolerance.  People a far less likely to ask good questions, and supply
> answers, as long as some are gonna attack others for their lack of
> knowledge, netiquette, etc.
> This is the point where ESR is completely deluded:  "What we are,
> unapologetically, is hostile to people..."  This attitude comes through
> quite clearly in a lot of people's writings, not just ESR.  These same
> want good ideas to flow, but apparently don't see that the opposite of
> deluded attitude, the one that allows for tolerance of other's
> short-comings, is a necessary ingredient to creating idea flow.
> This seems to be a completely and totally deluded and mistaken belief:
> you need to be hostile to people, to be a good coder.  People are like
> computers, yet unlike computers.
> jt

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