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jt, Exporting to ifs directories (non QSYS.LIB) as .txt is no problem. I created a share to a file called BUBBA in library ROB. This file has a record length of 150 - no DDS. Exporting to this did not generate an error but neither did it work. I suspect it is because there is no .mbr option - just .csv, .txt and a few others. I hope you didn't make me go through this work just so you could rant on about the evils of GUI tools again. Rob Berendt -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "jt" <jt@ee.net> Sent by: To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> midrange-l-admin@mi cc: drange.com Fax to: Subject: RE: Interactive Response Time 12/18/2001 08:17 AM Please respond to midrange-l Rob, Ya...! Can you *OUTFILE this stuff to a 400 DB file...? (.txt is OK, though) jt | -----Original Message----- | From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com | [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of rob@dekko.com | Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 8:06 AM | To: midrange-l@midrange.com | Subject: Re: Interactive Response Time | | | | I fired up Operations Navigator's performance features on our newly | upgraded P50-840-12way. Then I exported these graphs to txt files. Here | are the results. Would knowing this information from your system | help you? | | CPU Utilization (Average) | | Date Time System Value | ---------- ---------- ----- ----- | 12/17/2001 4:00:00 PM Gdihq 6.00 | 12/17/2001 4:01:00 PM Gdihq 7.00 | 12/17/2001 4:01:30 PM Gdihq 7.00 | 12/17/2001 4:02:00 PM Gdihq 8.00 | 12/17/2001 4:02:30 PM Gdihq 17.00 | 12/17/2001 4:03:00 PM Gdihq 10.00 | 12/17/2001 4:03:30 PM Gdihq 6.00 | 12/17/2001 4:04:00 PM Gdihq 8.00 | 12/17/2001 4:04:30 PM Gdihq 12.00 | 12/17/2001 4:05:00 PM Gdihq 10.00 | 12/17/2001 4:05:30 PM Gdihq 13.00 | | | CPU Utilization (Interactive Feature) | | Date Time System Value | ---------- ---------- ----- ------ | 12/17/2001 4:00:00 PM Gdihq 3.00 | 12/17/2001 4:01:00 PM Gdihq 4.00 | 12/17/2001 4:01:30 PM Gdihq 4.00 | 12/17/2001 4:02:00 PM Gdihq 44.00 | 12/17/2001 4:02:30 PM Gdihq 146.00 | 12/17/2001 4:03:00 PM Gdihq 76.00 | 12/17/2001 4:03:30 PM Gdihq 4.00 | 12/17/2001 4:04:00 PM Gdihq 4.00 | 12/17/2001 4:04:30 PM Gdihq 53.00 | 12/17/2001 4:05:00 PM Gdihq 14.00 | 12/17/2001 4:05:30 PM Gdihq 5.00 | | Interactive Response Time (Average) | | Date Time System Value | ---------- ---------- ----- ---- | 12/17/2001 4:00:00 PM Gdihq 0.11 | 12/17/2001 4:01:00 PM Gdihq 0.11 | 12/17/2001 4:01:30 PM Gdihq 0.12 | 12/17/2001 4:02:00 PM Gdihq 0.13 | 12/17/2001 4:02:30 PM Gdihq 0.29 | 12/17/2001 4:03:00 PM Gdihq 0.60 | 12/17/2001 4:03:30 PM Gdihq 0.70 | 12/17/2001 4:04:00 PM Gdihq 0.09 | 12/17/2001 4:04:30 PM Gdihq 0.24 | 12/17/2001 4:05:00 PM Gdihq 0.17 | 12/17/2001 4:05:30 PM Gdihq 0.11 | ... | 12/17/2001 4:16:30 PM Gdihq 0.27 | 12/17/2001 4:17:00 PM Gdihq 7.24 | 12/17/2001 4:17:30 PM Gdihq 0.12 | | | Interactive Response Time (Maximum) | | Date Time System Value | ---------- ---------- ----- ------ | 12/17/2001 4:00:00 PM Gdihq 0.65 | 12/17/2001 4:01:00 PM Gdihq 1.47 | 12/17/2001 4:01:30 PM Gdihq 0.92 | 12/17/2001 4:02:00 PM Gdihq 0.92 | 12/17/2001 4:02:30 PM Gdihq 5.15 | 12/17/2001 4:03:00 PM Gdihq 57.63 | 12/17/2001 4:03:30 PM Gdihq 46.25 | 12/17/2001 4:04:00 PM Gdihq 0.69 | 12/17/2001 4:04:30 PM Gdihq 3.69 | 12/17/2001 4:05:00 PM Gdihq 2.40 | 12/17/2001 4:05:30 PM Gdihq 0.63 | | | Disk Arm Utilization (Average) | | Date Time System Value | ---------- ---------- ----- ---- | 12/17/2001 4:13:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:13:30 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:14:00 PM Gdihq 2.00 | 12/17/2001 4:14:30 PM Gdihq 2.00 | 12/17/2001 4:15:00 PM Gdihq 2.00 | 12/17/2001 4:15:30 PM Gdihq 2.00 | 12/17/2001 4:16:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:16:30 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:17:00 PM Gdihq 2.00 | | | Disk IOP Utilization (Average) | | Date Time System Value | ---------- ---------- ----- ----- | 12/17/2001 4:13:00 PM Gdihq 5.00 | 12/17/2001 4:13:30 PM Gdihq 5.00 | 12/17/2001 4:14:00 PM Gdihq 6.00 | 12/17/2001 4:14:30 PM Gdihq 9.00 | 12/17/2001 4:15:00 PM Gdihq 6.00 | 12/17/2001 4:15:30 PM Gdihq 6.00 | 12/17/2001 4:16:00 PM Gdihq 7.00 | 12/17/2001 4:16:30 PM Gdihq 6.00 | | | Communications IOP Utilization (Maximum) | | Date Time System Value | ---------- ---------- ----- ----- | 12/17/2001 4:13:00 PM Gdihq 14.00 | 12/17/2001 4:13:30 PM Gdihq 14.00 | 12/17/2001 4:14:00 PM Gdihq 14.00 | 12/17/2001 4:14:30 PM Gdihq 14.00 | 12/17/2001 4:15:00 PM Gdihq 14.00 | 12/17/2001 4:15:30 PM Gdihq 14.00 | 12/17/2001 4:16:00 PM Gdihq 14.00 | 12/17/2001 4:16:30 PM Gdihq 14.00 | 12/17/2001 4:17:00 PM Gdihq 23.00 | | | User Pool Faults (Average) | | Date Time System Value | ---------- ---------- ----- ---- | 12/17/2001 4:12:30 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:12:45 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:13:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:13:15 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:13:30 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:13:45 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:14:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:14:15 PM Gdihq 1.00 | | | Communications Line Utilization (Average) | | Date Time System Value | ---------- ---------- ----- ---- | 12/17/2001 4:11:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:12:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:13:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:14:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:15:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:16:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:17:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:18:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:19:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:20:00 PM Gdihq 6.00 | | | LAN Utilization (Average) | | Date Time System Value | ---------- ---------- ----- ---- | 12/17/2001 4:11:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:12:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:13:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:14:00 PM Gdihq 1.00 | 12/17/2001 4:15:00 PM Gdihq 2.00 | 12/17/2001 4:16:00 PM Gdihq 2.00 | | There's several more charts available. | | | | Rob Berendt | | ================== | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary | safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." | Benjamin Franklin | | | | prumschlag@phdinc.c | om To: | midrange-l@midrange.com | Sent by: cc: | midrange-l-admin@mi Fax to: | drange.com Subject: Re: | Interactive Response Time | | | 12/17/2001 04:01 PM | Please respond to | midrange-l | | | | | | | | | Mike, | | (jt: You might want to read this, too.) | | I really like the format you are using with the various time buckets. | After | running down several dead-end paths, the only performance file (QAPM*) I | see | that has this kind of information is QAPMRESP which is for twinax attached | workstations only. The Performance Tools Manual shows a report | for Locally | Attached Workstations as well as one for Remote Workstations. I am not | finding | this type of info for LAN attached Client Access type workstations. | | Is your report showing the Client Access workstations or just the twinax | type? | | If I understand correctly, Performance Tools presents reports and screens | based | on the data that is collected by the QPFRMON job that starts when | you run a | STRPFRMON command. (I am not sure if/how this is related to the CRTPFRDTA | job | that is always running in QSYSWRK.) We don't have Performance Tools, but | before | I spend money, I would like to have some assurance PT can actually provide | the | info I need. | | Phil | | | <snip> | Enough of my stories. My thought is that you use another metric for | response time. This assumes you can get someone to buy into the idea | that | sometimes response time is an application problem or design issue. I | think | this is real critical. What we measure is the 'distribution curve of | response times'. Everyone is going to be slightly different | but what we | measure is the standard 4 buckets: 0-1 second, 1-2, seconds, 2-4 | seconds, | 4+ seconds. 95% of our transactions fall within sub-second, 98% within | 2 | seconds, and so on. Right now I forget how we track that but I am | pretty | sure it is a component of performance tools. | <end snip> | | | _______________________________________________ | This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) | mailing list | To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com | To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, | visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l | or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com | Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives | at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) | mailing list | To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com | To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, | visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l | or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com | Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives | at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. | _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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