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Appreciate the details. I have confused your post with another in this same thread which mentioned an ipl. The multi thread has been a great improvement, and like any major changes, may take time to "settle". thanks jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bolhuis" <lbolhuis@arbsol.com> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: Re: V5R1 Lic Pgm install failures > Jim, > > In these cases I personally did ALL the option 5 pieces as you > suspect. We did add several new pieces (JDK 1.3 for example and all of > WDS but this is common to All my upgrades) > > In each case they were V4R5 to V5R1 upgrades. > In each case the failures occured: > on dual processor 820's > with minimum of 2G memory > each with 42 drives > each with at least 50G free disk > > Recovery did not require even an IPL. As soon as the LPP install > section completes (where PTFs would normally be applied) simply take > option 11 on LICPGM, select the failed pgms, and reload all the CDs. > THEN move on the the PTFs. > > I think Al is onto something with the multi-tasking of the LPP > install. This is absolutely an improvement over the single threaded > model used years ago but certainly has to be more complicated to manage > especially on these faster machines. On each of the systems where I > experienced the failures the list of programs being loaded concurrently > was off the bottom of the screen at the point of failure. All my prior > upgrades were single CPU systems with much smaller memory and disk > configuratoins. > > - Larry > > Jim Franz wrote: > > > Larry (and others who have failed in this way), > > could you describe your environment a little better? > > I searched ptfs for "extended base". Almost all related to either Java > > database access > > or Management Central. If this extended base directory support includes > > data, > > perhaps your 4.4 or 4.5 machine had something corrupted prior to conversion > > (a wild guess). > > But it does sound like the manual ipl cleaned up the problem, which then > > allowed you to complete > > the install. > > Can you say that all the "Prepare to Install" options were done, including > > Cleanup options and > > Verify Integrity of System Objects? (don't doubt that you did them, but > > looking for some > > pattern in all these problems). I have several V4R5-V5R1 upgrades to do > > soon. > > > > jim franz > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Shaw" <mshaw@ncal.verio.com> > > To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> > > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:56 PM > > Subject: Re: V5R1 Lic Pgm install failures > > > > > > > >>Larry, > >> > >>I just did a V4R4 to V5R1 on a Model 720 on Thursday. The pre-install > >> > > stuff > > > >>ran fine, but the install failed. I wound up calling the support center > >> > > to > > > >>get it going again.....Wound up having to abort the automatic installation > >>and install the licensed program products manually. > >> > >>From the call and the install job log, it appears that something happened > >>with the install of OS/400 Optional Part 3 (Extended Directory Support). > >>From there, the system hung and nothing happened. > >> > >>The workaround was to go to manual mode and force the system to do an IPL. > >> > >>Once IPL'ed to the B side in normal mode, I used Option 11 on the LICPGM > >>menu to load all the products that were flagged as *ERROR or *BACKLEVEL. > >>Once those were on, I went and got the stuff that was set in the Install > >>List so that I had everything. > >> > >>From there it was on to the CUME, HIPER Group PTF's, and DB2 Group PTF's. > >> > >>You are not alone, I know of a 730 that had the same > >> > > problem...........From > > > >>what we concluded looking at the install job log, something happened > >>installing Optional Part 3 of OS/400......I have had the same problem with > >>installs at V4R5 and V5R1 just as you have. > >> > >>Keep me in the loop if you get more info. I'll do the same........ > >> > >>Regards, > >> > >>Mike Shaw > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Larry Bolhuis" <lbolhuis@arbsol.com> > >>To: "Midrange Systems Mailing List" <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> > >>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:17 PM > >>Subject: V5R1 Lic Pgm install failures > >> > >> > >> > >>>Greetings to the highly intelligent Midrange community. > >>> > >>>The last two V4R5 to V5R1 upgrades that I have done have each failed to > >>>install at least a dozen program products. I didn't keep the lists but > >>>in each case they were smattered all over from pieces of SS1 all the way > >>> to XE1. In each case history log messages indicated the products were > >>>not copied from the media. LICPGM Option 5-prepare for install- had > >>>successfully located these products. After failing during the initial > >>>install the use of option 11-install licensed programs for each of the > >>>failed programs successfully loads them no problem. > >>> > >>>Both of these upgrades were dual processor 820 machines with lots of > >>>memory and disk. > >>> > >>>Nothing in the archives, or on the iSeries pages. > >>> > >>>Thoughts? Similar experiences? I'm full of ****? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> - Larry. > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > >>> > >>list > >> > >>>To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > >>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > >>>visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > >>>or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > >>>Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > >>>at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > >>> > >>> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > >> > > list > > > >>To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > >>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > >>visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > >>or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > >>Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > >>at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >
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