Appreciate the details. I have confused your post with another in
this same thread which mentioned an ipl.
The multi thread has been a great improvement, and like any major changes,
may take time to "settle".
thanks
jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bolhuis" <lbolhuis@arbsol.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: V5R1 Lic Pgm install failures


> Jim,
>
>    In these cases I personally did ALL the option 5 pieces as you
> suspect. We did add several new pieces (JDK 1.3 for example and all of
> WDS but this is common to All my upgrades)
>
>    In each case they were V4R5 to V5R1 upgrades.
>    In each case the failures occured:
> on dual processor 820's
> with minimum of 2G memory
> each with 42 drives
> each with at least 50G free disk
>
>    Recovery did not require even an IPL. As soon as the LPP install
> section completes (where PTFs would normally be applied) simply take
> option 11 on LICPGM, select the failed pgms, and reload all the CDs.
> THEN move on the the PTFs.
>
>    I think Al is onto something with the multi-tasking of the LPP
> install. This is absolutely an improvement over the single threaded
> model used years ago but certainly has to be more complicated to manage
> especially on these faster machines. On each of the systems where I
> experienced the failures the list of programs being loaded concurrently
> was off the bottom of the screen at the point of failure. All my prior
> upgrades were single CPU systems with much smaller memory and disk
> configuratoins.
>
>    - Larry
>
> Jim Franz wrote:
>
> > Larry (and others who have failed in this way),
> > could you describe your environment a little better?
> > I searched ptfs for "extended base". Almost all related to either  Java
> > database access
> > or Management Central. If this extended base directory support includes
> > data,
> > perhaps your 4.4 or 4.5 machine had something corrupted prior to
conversion
> > (a wild guess).
> > But it does sound like the manual ipl cleaned up the problem, which then
> > allowed you to complete
> > the install.
> > Can you say that all the "Prepare to Install" options were done,
including
> > Cleanup options and
> > Verify Integrity of System Objects? (don't doubt that you did them, but
> > looking for some
> > pattern in all these problems). I have several V4R5-V5R1 upgrades to do
> > soon.
> >
> > jim franz
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mike Shaw" <mshaw@ncal.verio.com>
> > To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 12:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: V5R1 Lic Pgm install failures
> >
> >
> >
> >>Larry,
> >>
> >>I just did a V4R4 to V5R1 on a Model 720 on Thursday.  The pre-install
> >>
> > stuff
> >
> >>ran fine, but the install failed.  I wound up calling the support center
> >>
> > to
> >
> >>get it going again.....Wound up having to abort the automatic
installation
> >>and install the licensed program products manually.
> >>
> >>From the call and the install job log, it appears that something
happened
> >>with the install of OS/400 Optional Part 3 (Extended Directory Support).
> >>From there, the system hung and nothing happened.
> >>
> >>The workaround was to go to manual mode and force the system to do an
IPL.
> >>
> >>Once IPL'ed to the B side in normal mode, I used Option 11 on the LICPGM
> >>menu to load all the products that were flagged as *ERROR or *BACKLEVEL.
> >>Once those were on, I went and got the stuff that was set in the Install
> >>List so that I had everything.
> >>
> >>From there it was on to the CUME, HIPER Group PTF's, and DB2 Group
PTF's.
> >>
> >>You are not alone, I know of a 730 that had the same
> >>
> > problem...........From
> >
> >>what we concluded looking at the install job log,  something happened
> >>installing Optional Part 3 of OS/400......I have had the same problem
with
> >>installs at V4R5 and V5R1 just as you have.
> >>
> >>Keep me in the loop if you get more info.  I'll do the same........
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Mike Shaw
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Larry Bolhuis" <lbolhuis@arbsol.com>
> >>To: "Midrange Systems Mailing List" <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> >>Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:17 PM
> >>Subject: V5R1 Lic Pgm install failures
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Greetings to the highly intelligent Midrange community.
> >>>
> >>>The last two V4R5 to V5R1 upgrades that I have done have each failed to
> >>>install at least a dozen program products. I didn't keep the lists but
> >>>in each case they were smattered all over from pieces of SS1 all the
way
> >>>  to XE1. In each case history log messages indicated the products were
> >>>not copied from the media. LICPGM Option 5-prepare for install- had
> >>>successfully located these products.  After failing during the initial
> >>>install the use of option 11-install licensed programs for each of the
> >>>failed programs successfully loads them no problem.
> >>>
> >>>Both of these upgrades were dual processor 820 machines with lots of
> >>>memory and disk.
> >>>
> >>>Nothing in the archives, or on the iSeries pages.
> >>>
> >>>Thoughts? Similar experiences? I'm full of ****?
> >>>
> >>>  Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>    - Larry.
> >>>
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