Dag....

I kid around an awful lot...  But I'm neither kidding, nor being sarcastic
here:


I s'pose I should apologize for approximately half the things I've said
about IBM...  I frequently use hyperbole.. but just to make a point.

I've said a couple times, that I REALLY appreciate the hard work that goes
on at IBM.  And that DOES include the InfoCenter team.  I don't recall
saying that they lack effort...  Just that they don't seem to follow the
guidance of their customer-base, that's all...

But those few comments have been buried amongst a large, and loud, volume of
complaints.  It's almost unavoidable to escape that I've probably offended a
few folks, along the way...  I'm just trying to emphasize one side of the
coin, in trying to make a point..  But still, I must apologize to any who've
I've offended.  On any of these posts the past year, and off-list, as well.


jt

"Have a GREAT day...!  And a BETTER ONE TOMORROW~~~:-)" (sm)


| -----Original Message-----
| From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com
| [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Don
| Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 6:55 PM
| To: midrange-l@midrange.com
| Subject: Re: V5R1 Lic Pgm install failures
|
|
|
|
| Al,
|
| You're correct.  I withdraw the statement with apologies.
|
| ---------
|
| On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 barsa@barsaconsulting.com wrote:
|
| >
| > With all due respect, it is tested, and lots.  I even go into
| the lab and
| > test before GA, but there are so many permutations and combinations.
| >
| > Also LPP install was enhanced many (many many many) releases to
| let tasks
| > overlap, which adds a degree of complication.
| >
| > Al
| >
| > Al Barsa, Jr.
| > Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
| >
| > 400>390
| >
| > 914-251-1234
| > 914-251-9406 fax
| >
| > http://www.barsaconsulting.com
| > http://www.taatool.com
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >                     Don
| >                     <dr2@cssas400.com>        To:
| midrange-l@midrange.com
| >                     Sent by:                  cc:
| >                     midrange-l-admin@mi       Subject:     Re:
| V5R1 Lic Pgm install failures
| >                     drange.com
| >
| >
| >                     12/15/01 02:35 PM
| >                     Please respond to
| >                     midrange-l
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > ....if at all?
| >
| >
| >
| > On Sat, 15 Dec 2001 barsa@barsaconsulting.com wrote:
| >
| > >
| > > I have had similar experiences, and I just re-install them.
| > >
| > > To me the fact that a failure in a restricted state of any
| licensed pgm
| > is
| > > just an indication that the process was never tested well enough.
| > >
| > > Al
| > >
| > > Al Barsa, Jr.
| > > Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
| > >
| > > 400>390
| > >
| > > 914-251-1234
| > > 914-251-9406 fax
| > >
| > > http://www.barsaconsulting.com
| > > http://www.taatool.com
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >                     Larry Bolhuis
| > >                     <lbolhuis@arbsol.co       To:     Midrange Systems
| > Mailing List <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
| > >                     m>                        cc:
| > >                     Sent by:                  Subject:
| V5R1 Lic Pgm
| > install failures
| > >                     midrange-l-admin@mi
| > >                     drange.com
| > >
| > >
| > >                     12/14/01 11:17 PM
| > >                     Please respond to
| > >                     midrange-l
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > Greetings to the highly intelligent Midrange community.
| > >
| > > The last two V4R5 to V5R1 upgrades that I have done have each
| failed to
| > > install at least a dozen program products. I didn't keep the lists but
| > > in each case they were smattered all over from pieces of SS1
| all the way
| > >   to XE1. In each case history log messages indicated the
| products were
| > > not copied from the media. LICPGM Option 5-prepare for install- had
| > > successfully located these products.  After failing during the initial
| > > install the use of option 11-install licensed programs for each of the
| > > failed programs successfully loads them no problem.
| > >
| > > Both of these upgrades were dual processor 820 machines with lots of
| > > memory and disk.
| > >
| > > Nothing in the archives, or on the iSeries pages.
| > >
| > > Thoughts? Similar experiences? I'm full of ****?
| > >
| > >   Thanks,
| > >
| > >     - Larry.
| > >
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