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Tom, >They probably would if you could demonstrate that they broke code >relying on documented interfaces. And therein lies the secret to why I think IBM can easily win this in court, even if it is deemed to not be a violation of the license agreement. So for the sake of argument, pretend IBM loses that part of a lawsuit. What is Fast400 going to claim is illegal about the PTF? Even if it is legal for Fast400 to twiddle some bits in a publicly undocumented OS structure, what is illegal about IBM changing an undocumented structure? It has always been the case -- on every operating system I know -- that if you rely on undocumented features that you are at the mercy of the vendor should they decide to change their implementation. For whatever reason. There have been a few cases where undocumented quirks became widely used over a period of time, and IBM succumbed to pressure to support something even though it wasn't officially documented. A case in point was on the S/36: when you used a roll/page key, the docs said you would not have the screen data returned to you (like a CAxx key vs CFxx key in DDS). But someone published a trick to make it return the screen data, and lots of people wrote applications relying on that undocumented trick. But I'd put Fast400 in a different camp. I can't think of a single legitimate reason to claim IBM is not legally free to change undocumented internal structures. So even if IBM loses the license agreement allegation, at best you have a cat and mouse game as IBM changes how CFINTxx is dispatched. And you can bet the next time it would be more complicated to thwart. Doug
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