RE: SAVCHGOBJ

[barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

There is a new SWA TAA Tool that reduces the implementation effort of SWA
from a usual 40 person days to about 2, a majority of which it test time.
It has to be off-shift (i.e.:  on a weekend).  You must have the 10/15/01
revision of TAA to have this new tool.

Al

Al Barsa, Jr.
Barsa Consulting Group, LLC

400>390

914-251-1234
914-251-9406 fax

http://www.barsaconsulting.com
http://www.taatool.com






                    "Graap, Ken"
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                    11/02/01 08:55 PM
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Fiona -

I agree with Al. Always save access paths...

You should investigate using the Save While Active feature of SAV/RST to
reduce your application offline time while doing backups too.

I B/U over 300GB a night using BRMS/400, our 3590 tape drives and the Save
While Active feature. Our production applications are only unavailable to
users for about 25 minutes a day and that is at 3AM... The end user hardly
even notices the downtime and I backup everything I need for a quick and
easy recovery.

Al has a great presentation on Save While Active that I bet he would send
you, if you asked nicely...

Kenneth
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-----Original Message-----
From: fiona.fitzgerald@notes.royalsun.com
[mailto:fiona.fitzgerald@notes.royalsun.com]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 3:02 PM
To: midrange-l@midrange.com
Subject: SAVCHGOBJ




We backup changes , without the access paths during the week, & do a full
SAVLIB *ALLUSR at weekends with access paths.
Should the nightly save changes job save access paths just like the weekly
full saves ?

We've been using this strategy to minimise tape & offline batch-window
usage for 5 years, but I'm wondering if this is wrong for effective
disaster-recovery, when it slows down to rebuild them. Our application
files rarely change, only the pgms get upgraded weekly. Does anyone have an
opinion on the pros & cons of this ?

Fiona


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