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Shannon, Well, that's a problem! The help|tutorial link takes me here: http://www-4.ibm.com/software/ad/varpg/download/#interactive and I can't find anything about a tutorial. There are samples, macros, a link to service packs for V3R2M2, etc. This is how I found the "to be deleted soon" page - from the "Help|VARPG on the Web|Tips and Techniques" menu item. It takes you right there! So I have V5R1M0 - the new version - and the help menu takes me to links about V3R2M2 and pages that say "to be deleted soon". Ha! I think I'll wait to see what you find out in a couple days before spending anymore time on this! Thanks, Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com > [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Shannon O'Donnell > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:26 AM > To: midrange-l@midrange.com > Subject: Re: Visual Age for RPG's future > > > If you open the GUI Designer, then click on the HELP menu item, you'll see > an entry for "Tutorial". Click that menu item and you'll be prompted for > how to download a VARPG tutorial from IBM's website. > > That's a good place to get started. > > Another great resource is the IBM.Software.varpg newsgroup. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil" <sublime78ska@yahoo.com> > To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:04 AM > Subject: RE: Visual Age for RPG's future > > > > Thanks, Shannon. > > > > I haven't used VARPG yet and, now that I have it on my PC, I want to try > it > > out. Do you know of any tutorials? That's what I was > searching for when > I > > found the reference about deleting the page soon. > > > > Phil > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com > > > [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Shannon O'Donnell > > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:23 PM > > > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > > > Subject: Re: Visual Age for RPG's future > > > > > > > > > I saw that too, but I'm thinking that it's referring to the standalone > > > product you used to be able to purchase. As far as I know, IBM > > > will continue > > > to package VARPG with WDS. I can't imagine why they'd delete the tips > page > > > though. That sounds screwy to me. > > > > > > I'll find out for sure in a couple days and if for some reason it > > > turns out > > > that they are dropping VARPG all together, I'll post a message here. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Phil" <sublime78ska@yahoo.com> > > > To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:36 PM > > > Subject: RE: Visual Age for RPG's future > > > > > > > > > > Shannon, > > > > > > > > Here's the url that got me thinking: > > > > > > > > http://www-4.ibm.com/software/ad/varpg/support/wintips.html > > > > > > > > here's the relevent text: > > > > > > > > "VisualAge RPG Windows Tips and Techniques > > > > > > > > Here are some past tips from IBM developers to help improve > > > your VisualAge > > > > RPG applications. IBM is no longer marketing this product. No > > > further tips > > > > will be added. This page will be deleted soon. " > > > > > > > > The last sentence is in bold. > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com > > > > > [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of > Shannon O'Donnell > > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:19 PM > > > > > To: midrange-l@midrange.com > > > > > Subject: Re: Visual Age for RPG's future > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't think so. It's packaged with Websphere Development Studio > > > > > (5722-WDS). > > > > > > > > > > You just can't purchase it as a separate component any > longer (to my > > > > > understanding). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > > > list > > > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > > > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > > > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) > > > mailing list > > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) > mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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