RE: NICs - bottleneck (was Re: Dropping the AS/400 as a Web servi ng platform)

Those reliability figures typically have a caveat of "unscheduled" downtime.

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Walden H. Leverich [mailto:WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:17 PM
>To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
>Subject: RE: NICs - bottleneck (was Re: Dropping the AS/400 as a Web
>servi ng platform)
>
>
>>you want the 99.9999 reliability?
>
>Surely you jest. 99.9999% That's 31.5 SECONDS of downtime in a
>year. Given
>that there isn't an AS/400 that you can shutdown and re-ipl within 31.5
>seconds you're saying you haven't IPLed this year, at all, for anything
>(release, PTF, crash?)
>
>Maybe 99.999%, well that just over 5 minutes. I doubt you could bring a
>machine down and back up in five minutes.
>
>Maybe 99.99%, that would be almost an hour. That I'd buy. Of
>course I have
>no problem getting that from a cluster of W2K machines either.
>
>-Walden
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jim Franz [mailto:franz400@triad.rr.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:39 PM
>To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>Subject: Re: NICs - bottleneck (was Re: Dropping the AS/400 as a Web
>servi ng platform)
>
>
>Lan ports
>model 250s - 6
>model 270s - 8
>model 720s - 24
>model 730s - 48
>model 740s - 48
>820s-30
>830s - 72
>840s - 96
>
>8xx/270 features
>2743 1gb eth $1820
>4723 10mb eth $840
>4838 10/100 eth $1800
>
>from spring 2001 iSeries catalog
>btw-i prefer something more reliable than a $15 card
>you want the 99.9999 reliability?
>you want cheap?
>pick one (and only one).
>net techs call the $15 cards "throw-a-ways" and they replace a
>lot of them.
>Anyone who buys raid drives, mirrored systems,24x7 uptime & a
>working DR
>plan to run a real shop has no business with brand-x throw-a-ways.
>jim
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Brad Stone" <brad@bvstools.com>
>To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:22 PM
>Subject: Re: NICs - bottleneck (was Re: Dropping the AS/400 as
>a Web servi
>ng platform)
>
>
>> Chris, you're missing the point.
>>
>> I don't know how many nics you can put in any iSeries.  The
>> point is how much do those NICs cost.  I can get a 10/100
>> for a PC for $15.  And build a PC for 300.
>>
>> If I could buy parts for my iseries at best buy, then it
>> wouldn't be a big deal.  A server maching like an iSeries
>> should be able to accept multiple (5 or more) nics.  A base
>> 270 should be able to have at least 5.  If not, it's not a
>> server.  It has to be able to handle the bandwidth.
>>
>> I'd love to hear the lowdown, if anyone knows, how many NICs
>> you can install in most used boxes, and the price of each.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:41:35 -0700
>>  Chris Bipes <chris.bipes@cross-check.com> wrote:
>> > But I can put in multiple NICs into one AS400.  My 720
>> > came with 2 10/100
>> > and we use a Virtual IP and load balancing.  How many
>> > NICs can you put in a
>> > 850 24way AS400?
>> >
>> > Christopher K. Bipes   mailto:ChrisB@Cross-Check.com
>> > Operations & Network Mgr  mailto:Chris_Bipes@Yahoo.com
>> > CrossCheck, Inc.   http://www.cross-check.com
>> > 6119 State Farm Drive   Phone: 707 586-0551 x 1102
>> > Rohnert Park CA  94928   Fax: 707 586-1884
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Brad Stone [mailto:brad@bvstools.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 11:38 AM
>> > To: midrange-l@midrange.com
>> > Subject: Re: NICs - bottleneck (was Re: Dropping the
>> > AS/400 as a Web
>> > servi ng platform)
>> >
>> >
>> > Even so, it's still only equal to 10 10/100 nics, which
>> > is
>> > not that much, depending on the size of the farm you're
>> > comparing it too.
>> >
>> > Brad
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