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To get your ***free*** subscription, go to http://www.midrangecomputing.com/mnealert/subscribe.cfm -----Original Message----- From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of midrange-l-request@midrange.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:09 PM To: midrange-l@midrange.com Subject: MIDRANGE-L digest, Vol 1 #317 - 9 msgs Send MIDRANGE-L mailing list submissions to midrange-l@midrange.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to midrange-l-request@midrange.com You can reach the person managing the list at midrange-l-admin@midrange.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of MIDRANGE-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Query Printer IP (Hatzenbeler, Tim) 2. RE: UPS & AS/400 talking to each other (rob@dekko.com) 3. Re: bug in Netserver V5.1 (rob@dekko.com) 4. Re: Tagged memory (was Re: Memory Upgrade) (Leif Svalgaard) 5. retrieving all member names (Angela Wawrzaszek) 6. Re: SQL statements in CL program? (rob@dekko.com) 7. Re: V5R1 (Glenn Ericson) 8. Re: System Power Control Network (rob@dekko.com) 9. Re: Programatically Determining Parm Info (rob@dekko.com) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Hatzenbeler, Tim" <thatzenbeler@clinitech.net> To: "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com> Subject: Query Printer IP Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 11:24:29 -0700 Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Is there a way to dump, device descriptions to a file? I have tried dspdevd and wrkdevd My goal is to have a list of devices by IP address... We have a printer in the field that is bad, and i'm having trouble isolating the correct devd... Thanks, tim dspdevd will let me dump it to a printfile... but it will only do it by a specific device name... So now I'm wondering if I have to write a program to do this... current release v4r5 tia, --__--__-- Message: 2 Subject: RE: UPS & AS/400 talking to each other To: midrange-l@midrange.com From: rob@dekko.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:39:06 -0500 Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com - catching up on some old email (she is 5# 14oz and pretty as heck!). On the back of your 400 in port J14. Normally this port is in some obscure corner of your 400. Don't look in the normal card slots. We've had a lot of problems in the past with improper cables. Do extensive testing. When you plug the cable in your 400 should get a message to the effect that CPI0962 80 Uninterruptible power supply (UPS) now attached. When you disconnect the cable from your 400 you should get a message to the effect that CPI0961 80 Uninterruptible power supply (UPS) no longer attached. If you cut power to the ups you should get a message like: CPF1816 80 System utility power failed at &1. If you restore power to the ups you should get a message like: CPF1817 60 System utility power restored at &1. But test this and don't take my word for it. Other useful messages: CPI0964 80 Weak battery condition exists. CPI0973 80 Weak battery condition no longer exists. CPI0963 80 System on auxiliary power. CPI097A 60 System power restored at &1. CPI0974 80 UPS has been bypassed. CPI0975 80 UPS no longer bypassed. CPI0994 60 System power is restored. CPF181A 80 System power failed at &1. CPP3500 0 Uninterruptible Power System reported a utility failure CPP3501 0 Uninterruptible Power System reported power restored Also WRKSYSVAL SYSVAL(QUPS*) We have our paging software set up to monitor this queue. I like to take people into our computer room (currently supporting 8 AS/400s, lots of network equipment and a bank of wintel servers) and trip the triple breaker to the room. UPS starts screaming, the person is grateful that I used my passcard to gain access, and then they leave as soon as possible. Hey, if it can't take a test, what good is it? My only fear is that I'll wear out the breaker. And, any changes to QUPSDLYTIM are ignored after the power fails and prior to the 400 dropping. Let me repeat, if your power fails, you look at your UPS and notice that it will run you for 45 minutes but your QUPSDLYTIM is set to 10 - tough luck. You'd better get power restored in 10 minutes or your 400 is going down. Changing QUPSDLYTIM will only take effect for the NEXT time that your power fails. And don't do the really stupid thing I did. If you have a bank of white racks and the only use for one rack is to run a tape drive, don't use the rack emergency power off button to shut off the unneeded rack. By God, that darn switch will power off the rest of the racks. Rob Berendt ================== A smart person learns from their mistakes, but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes. "Bale, Dan" <D.Bale@handleman.c To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> om> cc: Sent by: Fax to: midrange-l-admin@mi Subject: RE: UPS & AS/400 talking to each other drange.com 09/21/2001 02:05 PM Please respond to midrange-l This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Exactly what does this cable hook up to on the AS/400? Do you have to order a special card? Dan Bale IT - AS/400 Handleman Company 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952 D.Bale@Handleman.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Addison [SMTP:ahaddison@home.com] > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 3:06 PM > To: midrange-l@midrange.com > Subject: RE: UPS & AS/400 talking to each other > > One also has to watch for the correct cable for the AS/400. If you > don't > have the proper one, then the AS/400 will shutdown immediately on > getting > the signal from the UPS that it is on backup power > > Alan Addison > > -----Original Message----- > From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com > [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Jim Langston > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:35 PM > To: midrange-l@midrange.com > Subject: RE: UPS & AS/400 talking to each other > > > We had ordered a UPS for our AS/400 and I started looking at the > system settings for UPSes and asked the same question you did, > how the heck does the AS/400 know how much power the UPS has? > > I received the AS/400 UPS and got my answer, there is indeed a > communications cable that goes from the UPS to a special port > on the AS/400. > > My understanding, without this cable, the AS/400 has no idea > it's even on a UPS. So CALC would be ignored, and any other > settings dealing with UPSes. > > You should look at your UPS and see if there is a communications > connector on it (I seem to recall it was a db9, although it might > of been a 25 pin). If it doesn't, your UPS is probably not > designed with the AS/400 in mind. > > Also, since the AS/400 shut down immediately upon the power to > the building being shut down, that makes me think your UPS is > not powerful enough to run the AS/400. Most likely the AS/400 > power supply saw a drop of AC voltage below it's minimum safety > limit and shut off (I could be wrong on that, but I know that's > how many other computer's power supplies work). > > I think you have a little research to do on both your current > UPS and it's capabilities, and what the AS/400 requires for a > UPS. > > Regards, > > Jim Langston > > Message: 1 > Subject: UPS & AS/400 talking to each other > Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 12:57:52 -0400 > From: "Bale, Dan" <D.Bale@handleman.com> > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> > Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com > > Somewhat related to my last post on SPCN... > > I noticed that my QUPSDLYTIM system value is set to *CALC. How does > the > AS/400 know how much juice is left to be able to determine whether it > needs to start shutting down? Is there another cable that allows the > UPS and AS/400 to communicate this information? I don't think our > UPS's > have that, or if they do, they were never set up to do this. If a > comm > cable is required, then what is the effect of the *CALC setting? > > Background for all this: Last night, one of our branches cut power to > the building to install a new A/C unit (unbeknownst to us), relying on > the UPS to keep all of the computer equipment up for the "short" time > that the electricity was going to kept off. I was told by the branch > manager that the AS/400 lost power immediately after the building > power > was turned off. While the building power was off, we powered the > AS/400 > back up, so this is how I know that the AS/400 was attached to the > UPS. > The IPL was proceeding when the UPS got completely drained 15 minutes > later and then all equipment on the UPS went down. Main power was > restored shortly thereafter, the AS/400 IPL'd normally (!), got a > signon > screen within 20 minutes (a normal IPL for this box), nothing > "damaged" > as far as I could tell. > > Lessons learned: Don't power the AS/400 back up until after main > power > was restored. WHAT THE @#%* WAS I THINKING? > > Dan Bale > IT - AS/400 > Handleman Company > 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952 > D.Bale@Handleman.com _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. --__--__-- Message: 3 Subject: Re: bug in Netserver V5.1 To: midrange-l@midrange.com From: rob@dekko.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:41:33 -0500 Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com Kind of depends on the client. I think it affects W2K more than NT. But, yes I've seen this. I think we opened up a pmr on this many moons ago. I forget what the resolution was. Probably IBM wanted us to open a consult line contract. I am hearing that all the time from them. Yes, we're still using the work around. Rob Berendt ================== A smart person learns from their mistakes, but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes. "Carl Galgano" <cgalgano2@ediconsu To: "Midrange List" <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> lting.com> cc: Sent by: Fax to: midrange-l-admin@mi Subject: bug in Netserver V5.1 drange.com 09/22/2001 09:07 PM Please respond to midrange-l I have a client who has been using the Netserver for a while and has many shares set up to the IFS. Previously there were able to connect using the system name Qxxxxxxx, but since their upgrade to 5.1, the system name does not work. I can, however still connect with the IP address of the AS400. In Ops Navigator I have looked at the properties for the netserver and have the System name set to Qxxxxxx and have checked the box to allow access by system name as well as IP address. I have also restarted the Netserver (many times) and have even IPLed the system. Anyone know if this is a problem in V5.1. Thanks, cjg Carl J. Galgano EDI Consulting Services, Inc. 550 Kennesaw Avenue, Suite 800 Marietta, GA 30060 (770) 422-2995 - voice (419) 730-8212 - fax mailto:cgalgano@ediconsulting.com http://www.ediconsulting.com AS400 EDI, Networking, E-Commerce and Communications Consulting and Implementation http://www.icecreamovernight.com Premium Ice Cream Brands shipped Overnight FREE AS/400 Timesharing Service - http://www.ediconsulting.com/timeshare.html "You ain't gonna learn what you don't want to know" - rw _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Leif Svalgaard" <leif@attglobal.net> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> Subject: Re: Tagged memory (was Re: Memory Upgrade) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:40:48 -0500 Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com From: <thomas@inorbit.com> However, I can't totally accept your second point for a couple reasons which I'd gladly abandon if you can elaborate on what you wrote. First, the 'tagged' memory is a hardware fact; the tag bits physically exist. They might be manipulated by software, I can't ultimately prove or disprove that though I don't doubt it nor would I argue that you can't do it; but 'tags active' is a PPC processor mode and that mode affects instruction execution related to those bits. ===> true enough, but the pointer protection is pure software. My (small) point was just that the much hyped AS/400 security is a software function (and as such can be easily circumvented). The old CISC system was much safer in this respect as the protection was much closer to the hardware. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: Angela Wawrzaszek <awawrzaszek@nucorauburn.com> To: "Midrange Mail List (E-mail)" <midrange-L@midrange.com> Subject: retrieving all member names Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:40:51 -0400 Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Is there a way to retrieve all the member names with in a file so that I can display them on a subfile for a user to select which one it is they wish to use? Angela Wawrzaszek Nucor Steel Auburn IT Department --__--__-- Message: 6 Subject: Re: SQL statements in CL program? To: midrange-l@midrange.com From: rob@dekko.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:43:27 -0500 Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com IIRC - RUNSQLSTM requires that SQL be loaded on that system. I use RUNSQL from an ancient copy of News/400. It uses a QMQRY object. Which you can create without SQL loaded. But SQL does give you the prompter for QMQRY. Rob Berendt ================== A smart person learns from their mistakes, but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes. "Mike Shaw" <mshaw@ncal.verio.c To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> om> cc: Sent by: Fax to: midrange-l-admin@mi Subject: Re: SQL statements in CL program? drange.com 09/24/2001 10:35 AM Please respond to midrange-l Mike, Take a look at the RUNSQLSTM command. You provide a LIBRARY/SOURCE FILE/MEMBER name. Regards, Mike Shaw Senior AS/400 Systems Engineer NONSTOP Solutions, Inc. SF, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wills, Mike N. (TC)" <MNWills@taylorcorp.com> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 8:25 AM Subject: SQL statements in CL program? > Can I run a SQL statement in a CL program? If so, how? > > Mike > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:37:14 -0400 To: midrange-l@midrange.com, <midrange-l@midrange.com> From: Glenn Ericson <Glenn-Ericson@att.net> Subject: Re: V5R1 Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] he list of unsupported devices is on the IBM web pages & in handbooks At 01:17 PM 09/27/2001 -0400, R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr. wrote: >if you buy one now, yes it will work. the older fsiop's and some of the >early ipcs's .... nope. > >=========================================================== >R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr. > -- IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 Administrator > -- IBM Certified Specialist - RPG IV Developer > >"America is the land that fought for freedom and then > began passing laws to get rid of it." > > - Alfred E. Neuman > >-----Original Message----- >From: Phil <sublime78ska@yahoo.com> >To: midrange-l@midrange.com <midrange-l@midrange.com> >Date: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:21 PM >Subject: RE: V5R1 > > > >Any IPCS card or just older ones that weren't bought post V51? In other > >words, if I buy a new IPCS card (whatever it's current name - maybe I >should > >continue to call it FSIOP!) with the 820, will that one work or are there > >problems? > > > >Phil > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: midrange-l-admin@midrange.com > >> [mailto:midrange-l-admin@midrange.com]On Behalf Of R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr. > >> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:18 PM > >> To: midrange-l@midrange.com > >> Subject: Re: V5R1 > >> > >> > >> The IPCS cards fail to function at V5R1. Period. Can't set them up for >NT, > >> can't use the ethernet or token ring port. > >> > >> =========================================================== > >> R. Bruce Hoffman, Jr. > >> -- IBM Certified Specialist - AS/400 Administrator > >> -- IBM Certified Specialist - RPG IV Developer > >> > >> "America is the land that fought for freedom and then > >> began passing laws to get rid of it." > >> > >> - Alfred E. Neuman > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Phil <sublime78ska@yahoo.com> > >> To: midrange-l@midrange.com <midrange-l@midrange.com> > >> Date: Thursday, September 27, 2001 11:02 AM > >> Subject: RE: V5R1 > >> > >> > >> >Leo, > >> > > >> >> >We were caught unawares when the upgrade > >> >> did not support > >> >> > the AS/400 firewall (the hardware is no longer supported) > >> > > >> >Is it the hardware or the software? I have an IPCS card in a 620 which > >> used > >> >to have the firewall on it. In planning for an upgrade to an > >> 820 and V5R1 > >> I > >> >was planning on leaving the card in. Are you saying the card > >> itself isn't > >> >supported? > >> > > >> >Phil > >> > > >> >PS: Did you used to work at eSoft? :) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >_________________________________________________________ > >> >Do You Yahoo!? > >> >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > > >> >_______________________________________________ > >> >This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) > >> mailing list > >> >To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > >> >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > >> >visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > >> >or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > >> >Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > >> >at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) > >> mailing list > >> To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > >> visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > >> or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > >> Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > >> at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > >> > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >_______________________________________________ > >This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > >To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > >visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > >or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > >Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > >at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > > >_______________________________________________ >This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list >To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, >visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l >or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com >Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives >at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. Regards, Glenn Ph. (718)898-9805 <mailto:Glenn-Ericson@att.net>mailto:Glenn-Ericson@att.net =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- --__--__-- Message: 8 Subject: Re: System Power Control Network To: midrange-l@midrange.com From: rob@dekko.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:46:29 -0500 Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com Someone already recommended QIPLTYPE. Forgot to change this once when doing a complete restore to another machine. You may also wish to check the IPL type as displayed on the front of the system unit. 01 B N is very cool. Of course, IBM decided to change from N for normal to some hieroglyphics on some models. Rob Berendt ================== A smart person learns from their mistakes, but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes. Max Tee <mantechus@yahoo.co To: midrange-l@midrange.com m> cc: Sent by: Fax to: midrange-l-admin@mi Subject: Re: System Power Control Network drange.com 09/24/2001 02:24 PM Please respond to midrange-l Dan, Where in the system values do you specify that the IPL should be "unattended". Whenever I IPL it invariably switches to "attended", which is a pain. Tks, Max --- "Bale, Dan" <D.Bale@handleman.com> wrote: > Anybody using this feature? If equipped with this > feature, in the case > of an immediate power loss, does SPCN still kick in? > Is the IPL it > performs significantly faster than a normal IPL, for > example an IPL that > occurs after a PWRDWNSYS? > > From the V4R4 Backup & Recover guide: > > Many systems are equipped with a feature that is > called System Power > Control Network. This feature provides a function > called Continuously > Powered Main Store. If your system has this feature, > a battery provides > sufficient power to shut down the system and > maintain the contents of > memory for up to 2 days after a power loss. In many > cases, this can > significantly reduce the amount of time the system > requires to perform > an initial program load (IPL) after a power loss. > > You can use the continuously powered main store > feature along with an > uninterruptible power supply. If the system detects > that the > uninterruptible power supply can no longer provide > sufficient power to > the system, the continuously powered main store > feature takes control, > shuts down the system, and preserves the contents of > memory for up to 2 > days. > > When you have this feature, the system automatically > initiates an IPL > after power is restored. > > Dan Bale > IT - AS/400 > Handleman Company > 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952 > D.Bale@Handleman.com > > > _______________________________________________ > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: > http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com > Before posting, please take a moment to review the > archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. --__--__-- Message: 9 Subject: Re: Programatically Determining Parm Info To: midrange-l@midrange.com From: rob@dekko.com Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:47:36 -0500 Reply-To: midrange-l@midrange.com Any luck? Also, this should also work for those who've abandoned *ENTRY and use a Procedure Interface spec instead. Rob Berendt ================== A smart person learns from their mistakes, but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes. "Shannon O'Donnell" <shannono@janodata. To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> com> cc: Sent by: Fax to: midrange-l-admin@mi Subject: Programatically Determining Parm Info drange.com 09/24/2001 03:45 PM Please respond to midrange-l This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Does anyone know if there is a way to identify the *ENTRY parms in an RPG program, using an API or some other method? I know that DSPPGM and the QCLRPGMI (Retrieve Program Information) API will return the number of parms, but I'm looking for a way, if possible, of returning the actual parameter characteristics. For example, if the program has 3 Entry parms, and they are defined as: Parm1 - 3A Parm2 - 2, 2 Packed Parm3 - 15A I want to be able to retrieve the 3A 2,2 and15A characteristics. 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