RE: Gartner Group: DO NOT USE IIS! -- MIDRANGE-L

TechRepublic has run an article that shows the number of security related
bugs in several operating systems (no iSeries :-()
http://www.techrepublic.com/article.jhtml?id=r00220010917mco01.htm&fromtm=e1
02-3

However, to me those numbers don't mean anything. How major or minor where
these bugs?

-----Original Message-----
From: Walden H. Leverich [mailto:WaldenL@TechSoftInc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:45 PM
To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: Gartner Group: DO NOT USE IIS!


I don't want to start this war, but whether you want your company to monitor
your mail or not really isn't relevant. E-Mail is a corporate property and
if you want private e-mail go use hotmail, yahoo or the like.

As for *nix making virii a non-issue, surely you jest. You don't think MS
software is the only software subject to viruses, do you? As for current
*nix mail environments I'll agree that most use SMTP and local stores.
However, most *nix environments don't have the population that we're talking
about. *nix users tend to be extremely computer savvy. Can you imagine
taking the average user and giving him the control over their environment
that *nix users have? Oh my! These aren't issues in the non-ms world because
of population. It's somewhat like saying, gee North Dakota's school system
works great, let's apply it to New York City, I think we have more students
than they have total population.

-Walden

PS. The famous owl was very wise, and I'm careful not to pollute, but that
doesn't cost me anything. I'm simply not convinced that the non-ms solutions
are currently as capable as the ms ones (oh my I can image the flame war I
just stared.) Am I willing to use paper not plastic to not pollute, yes. Am
I willing to provide my customer a lesser experience at a greater price
because I don't like ms, hell no.

PPS. I'm taking a break from writing a Cool:2E application on my AS/400 for
web-enablement to write this e-mail so don't think I dislike the AS/400, I
love it.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Rich [mailto:james@eaerich.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 5:22 PM
To: 'midrange-l@midrange.com'
Subject: RE: Gartner Group: DO NOT USE IIS!


On Wed, 26 Sep 2001, Walden H. Leverich wrote:

> 1) You shouldn't be allowed to run SMTP and POP3 internally! If you're
> allowed to run SMTP outbound how is the company to monitor e-mail? What
> about virus scanning? Perhaps the footer the legal department puts on each
> outbound e-mail. Also, do you, the desktop user, understand the network
> architecture? There may be reasons that you can't send e-mail from your
> location and it's must be routed through another location.

Umm... maybe I don't *want* the company to monitor my email?  The whole
point of moving to a non-Microsoft solution is that it makes virii(sp?) a
non-issue.  Further, I've never been in a *nix network that didn't keep
all the email on the server, route all smtp traffic correctly, and
firewall any attemps to break the system.  These aren't issues in non-MS
land because things *work*.  These aren't new problems - their solutions
were worked out a long time ago.

James Rich
james@eaerich.com

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