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Please don't remind me about Lucent! We recently purchased a division specializing in cable for the telecommunication industry. Guess who their biggest customer was? Rob Berendt ================== A smart person learns from their mistakes, but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes. "Jim Franz" <franz400@triad.rr. To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> com> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating. owner-midrange-l@mi drange.com 07/27/2001 06:17 PM Please respond to MIDRANGE-L Many posts are asking or pointing to iSeries decline as the reason for MC's demise. It is clear the iSeries is not growing by leaps & bounds. But it is also clear the entire tech industry & many other publications are having similar problems. One of the biggest Internet & paper magazines, The Industry Standard www.thestandard.com has shrunk dramatically in size (more than MC & News) and is in the middle of dramatic layoffs & cutting. Compaq, Dell, Gateway are all slashing. HP's going to layoff 6,000 workers! Some fiber optics co just took a 45Billion hit. Lucent may die. And look who just posted a modest return? IBM! and the iSeries division still "made" money. The rumors of our demise are greatly exaggerated. jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leif Svalgaard" <leif@leif.org> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating. > the not paying attention was just a take-off on your signature. > no need to be sorry. > and lots of other (most?) people are also in denial. > the good news is that IBM apparently foresee a > slow demise of the platform. Extrapolating their own > figures show a 1.5% decline per year. since the > fraction of IBM's revenue resulting from the AS/400 now > stands at about 10%, you can do the arithmetic. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Rehm <javadisciple@earthlink.net> > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:27 PM > Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating. > > > > That so? So everyone else here has been expecting this but I was in denial? > > Wow, sorry. > > > > Chris Rehm > > javadisciple@earthlink.net > > If you believe that the best technology wins the > > marketplace, you haven't been paying attention. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Leif Svalgaard" <leif@leif.org> > > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 9:04 AM > > Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating. > > > > > > > maybe you just haven't been paying attention? > > > It is called denial... > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Chris Rehm <javadisciple@earthlink.net> > > > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> > > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:37 AM > > > Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating. > > > > > > > > > > Well, I'm not sure it is all doom and gloom, but I know it isn't a > > > > _positive_ sign. > > > > > > > > I think it mostly says that the market for AS/400 specific technologies > > is > > > > getting smaller. Which would mean, I suppose, that if the iSeries is to > > > > survive it needs to compete in more popular marketplaces. > > > > > > > > But what it really says to me is that the market is much further along > > that > > > > road than I thought. I am very sorry to hear that! It caught me off > > guard, > > > I > > > > guess I thought I'd have heard more speculation about such an event > > before > > > > it happened. > > > > > > > > Chris Rehm > > > > javadisciple@earthlink.net > > > > If you believe that the best technology wins the > > > > marketplace, you haven't been paying attention. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Don" <dr2@cssas400.com> > > > > To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> > > > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:35 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Midrange Computing is liquidating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UH, What do you THINK is says?! :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:17 PM 7/26/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > >I've got to say, Don, this blows my mind. Unreal. What does that say > > > > about > > > > > >the state of the market? > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: "Don" <dr2@cssas400.com> > > > > > >To: <Undisclosed recipients:> > > > > > >Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 3:49 PM > > > > > >Subject: Midrange Computing is liquidating. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just recieved a call from Shawnna Allison at Midrange > Computing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The company is folding. They told the employees that today is > > their > > > > last > > > > > > > day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a bit of a shock..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don in DC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +--- > > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to > MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: > david@midrange.com > > +--- > > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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