Re: RE my XP Windows got broke in a Hailstorm -- MIDRANGE-L

> -cheap
> -easy to use
> -cheap
> -visually appealing
> -and cheap

until the day he needs that report, and the "network's down"
until the day his competition read his email...
until he's fired for not backing up his work & 6 months of work is lost...

but you are right - cheap wins until something bad happens. I think
some of the coordinated attacks on IIS & XP will change some people's
perceptions. (NT/2000 is now considered a "kiddie-hack")
jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Taylor" <jtaylor@rpg2java.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 1:46 PM
Subject: RE: RE my XP Windows got broke in a Hailstorm


>
> John/Tom,
>
>
> Don't you guy's get it? This (unfortunately) isn't going to hurt MS one
bit
> in the long run. They already have 30 million subscribers! And they're
still
> in beta.
>
> MS, understands what some folks on this list seem to miss; Joe Public
> doesn't give a rat's ass about the things that techies hold as sacred.
>
> - He doesn't care if his machine doesn't run for weeks on end, because he
> normally turns it off every night anyway.
>
> - He doesn't care if HTML mail is less secure. After all, that's why God
> made virus scanners. He takes a bigger risk just getting into his car
> everyday. How much importance is he going to put on an email virus?
>
> - He doesn't care if his personal information isn't 100% secure. He likes
to
> give it lip service once in a while, but the truth is that he routinely
> gives it away for "free" stuff on the net, in the grocery store, contests
> etc.
>
> - He doesn't care if MS' monopoly hurts it's competitors. He get's IE for
> free, and "borrows" office from work, so he's happy.
>
> - He doesn't care if IIS is less secure than the web server on an iSeries,
> because he doesn't run a webserver.
>
> - He doesn't care if there's a chance his credit card number may be stolen
> because, a) he takes the same risk every time he hands it to a waitress,
and
> b) he's not going to have to pay the charges anyway.
>
> - He doesn't care if NS6 adheres to stricter standards than MS - he just
> knows it messes up the way his web pages look.
>
> The list goes on and on....
>
> Companies like MS and AOL are going to win the internet battle just as
> easily as they won the others, because they deliver what Joe Public wants.
>
> It doesn't have to be reliable, secure, and scalable. It has to be:
>
> -cheap
> -easy to use
> -cheap
> -visually appealing
> -and cheap
>
>
> John Taylor
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> > [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of jpcarr@tredegar.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 6:56 PM
> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> > Subject: RE my XP Windows got broke in a Hailstorm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >> On Thu, 19 July 2001, "John Taylor" wrote:
> > >> MS Passport is a good example. This will catch on like wildfire.
> >
> > >LOL! MS Passport was a specific reason I moved away from that whole
mess!
> > >If this don't demonstrate "One man's meat is another man's poison",
> > nothing in this forum ever will.
> > >(BTW, not laughing personally at your comments; it was the possibility
of
> > different viewpoints on this that struck >me so funny.)
> > >Tom Liotta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > After the below link.... shall we say "Embarrassment"   many big name
> > companies may be coming to the same conclusion you did.
> >
> > I personally feel very bad for them.
> > Imagine,  They have . er . a couple of people ... who theoretically know
> > how to configure Windows servers and they couldn't keep it up.  Hmm.
> >
> > Again,  I feel their pain.
> >
> > John Carr
> >
> > Read the whole article its really good.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > MSN Messenger partial outage: Day 7
> >
> > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6473003.html?tag=st.ne.1005.s
> > aslnk.saseml
> >
> > While Microsoft struggles to resolve this short-term crisis, long term
the
> > outage casts a shadow over some of the company's newest technologies and
> > initiatives that use instant messaging.
> >
> > In March, Microsoft unveiled HailStorm, one of the cornerstones of the
> > company's .Net software-as-a-service strategy. Through HailStorm,
> > Microsoft
> > hopes to deliver e-commerce services, address books online, and password
> > management to disparate devices such as PCs, handhelds or cell phones.
> >
> > Microsoft is integrating HailStorm into many new products such as
Windows
> > XP, the Xbox game console, and the Stinger cell phone.
> >
> > HailStorm, in part, relies on instant messaging.
> >
> > -------------------------------
> > oh and these ( a few JUST  from July so far)
> >
> > and this;
> >
> > The attackers had access to a Windows NT directory that houses Web
banking
> > customers' login names and encrypted passwords, the report stated. Using
> > "brute force" decryption techniques, a hacker could decrypt the
passwords
> > and compromise accounts.
> > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6476215.html?tag=st.ne.1003.s
> aslnk.saseml
>
> and this
>
> Program may exploit Microsoft server hole
>
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6466569.html?tag=st.ne.1003.saslnk.sase
> ml
>
> and this
>
> Microsoft warns of e-mail vulnerability
> http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6559890.html?tag=mn_hd
>
> and this  (well this is from January when they were down after being
hacked
> but  it's REAL good)
>
>
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-4606753-0.html?tag=st.ne.1003.saslnk.sa
> seml
>
> I got more from July but I got tired of pasteing them.
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>
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