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This is exactly a problem... Raw technical data is misleading, as I tried to show - like Mhz etc. Another way is to measure system performance in relation to a well-defined benchmark. Unfortunately, benchmark results only show how well system performs this particular benchmark, no more no less. Benchmark results can only be extrapolated to a particular application, if one understands very well, how *this* application relates to *that* benchmark - which is very difficult and rarely the case. Also, benchmark is taken in a particular configuration. Change configuration of the same box - and suddenly results are different. Too often benchmark results are taken as absolute measure - say, if system A performs benchmark X better than system B, then it's faster overall. However, with all the deficiencies of benchmark approach, it seems so far the only "quasi-objective" way. CPW numbers used by Rochseter are based on a strictly defined workload - in other words they are benchmark-based. (Don't forget that CPWs are measured for a balanced - most often this means maximum - configuration.) Unfortunately, there are too many different workloads nowadays. It's impossible to aniticipate every use of a computer system and have a benchmark for every case. Thus the attempt to alleviate this by publishing Mhz ratings. In this way one - caveat emptor - can estimate that if system has small CPW but fast CPU, then *possibly* it *may* perform compute-intensive code better than it's CPW rating suggests. In short - it's so complicated... Alexei Pytel "Pessimist is nothing but a well-informed optimist" "Steve Richter" <srichter@AutoCoder To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> .com> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: how is system geared down? owner-midrange-l@mi drange.com 05/11/2001 01:14 PM Please respond to MIDRANGE-L I apologize also Alexie. My commisars comment communicates my low opinion of ibm mgmt, whose actions I feel are threatening to make my 15 yrs experience on this platform obsolete. you are a great resource for this list alexie. I have learned more about the iseries from this thread due to yours and nathans participation. and I thank you for it. Now, could I ask if ibm publishes the cpu speed of its systems? This could be a relevant question. Example: stocking a low cpw system with a lot of memory may allow that system to not page as much on its slow speed io channels, hence perform better than its cpw rating. Or a system that is used primarily by pgmrs compiling pgms. A compile is a cpu and memory intensive application. A system used in such a way as this may out perform its cpw? best regards, Steve Richter +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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