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Do an IBM Search on "PIE" Partners in Education. This has been written up occasionally in all the Midrange Trade Press. The deal is that IBM sells a state-of-art e-server to a College, University, or High School at a price that looks so far below cost to the rest of us that we would think it was a stolen AS/400 were it not for the fact that IBM is doing the selling. Also, IBM provides OS/400 FOR FREE & all new versions of OS/400 FOR FREE & all IBM tech support of OS/400 FOR FREE Theory being IBM wants the kids to be learning the LATEST VERSION & not have the institution refrain from installing latest version for financial reasons ... of course this also tempts them to load a fully loaded version of OS/400 features, which means that the hardware requirements are higher than if they went with a minimal OS/400 version. The PIE package comes with an IBM reccommended curriculum of all the latest hot stuff ... how to work DB/2 in an e-world, everything you need to know for a career in the midrange world ... this curriculum is regularly updated in consultation with co-sponsors of the education program in the community where the campus is located, because the Partners are going to be offering jobs to graduates of the classes. In addition IBM Education offers summer classes at Rochester for the faculty of PIE institutions FOR FREE This is like the classes that regular IBM customers shell out $2,000 a week for The only stuff that the teachers or their sponsors have to pay for is transportation to & from IBM Rochester, lodging while there, and transportation between the lodging & IBM Teaching location, and the usual sundry expenses when traveling away from home but as we who have gone to the $2,000 classes know, that there are all kinds of ways to work things through IBM Education contacts so that Air Fare is the lowest available ... I have gone 1,000 miles on under $200 round trip via IBM Air Lodging is far below standards for the metropolis ... I remember checking out of one hotel after staying there just over a week at $65.00 per nite when the going rate is over $250.00 per nite & the check out clerk asked "WHO DID YOU HAVE TO KNOW TO GET THAT RATE?" Well the answer is that IBM or its local teach location sends all its students to certain hotels that offer IBM sweet deals - of course a lot of people just look at the stuff from the IBM web site & do not dig down to find these deals If you have been to COMMON, IBM Technical Conferences, Midrange Conventions & User Groups, IBM Classes etc, you know that there is great value in putting people into a classroom together who have similar needs & interests. It foments discussion & students with solutions to other students challenges. I can imagine that if you have class size of say 50 students who are faculty from institutions across the nation learning how to teach midrange stuff & if there are several classes next to each other going concurrently, this becomes like a midrange teacher's convention with great value in their meeting with each other to discuss common challenges. If you are involved with an institution that wants to teach IBM e-server know how, you owe it to the long term future of that effort to check out PIE. There may be a lag time getting it setup so that you will not be ready in time to use it in the next school year, but long term, this approach has got to be cost effective & always have access to expertise on a state-of-art curriculum. And did I forget to mention costs of finding the best state-of-art text books? The only down side I see is if your educational institution is rather distant from Rochester & your nation does not have a comparable PIE. MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac) +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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