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Ed, you saved me about 30 minutes of writing the reply you gave! Thanks! <g> I speak from the angle of the P/A and concur with all of your points, but especially with the T.S. values you spoke of. Believe me, I have been there, done that! Even my technically-minded superiors did not give much of a rat's *ss about how T.S. my work was. The very bottom line is, will this T.S. application/system benefit the company in proportion to the cost it takes to write the non-T.S. application/system? You can spout the rigamarole about lower/quicker maintenance costs, but most management types don't think that far ahead (in my experience). Dan Bale IT - AS/400 Handleman Company 248-362-4400 Ext. 4952 D.Bale@Handleman.com Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) -------------------------- Original Message -------------------------- Al, I can't tell exactly what you are looking for, if indeed you're looking for input or if you're just venting after a rough experience with your boss. What I can offer is some input, as a manager, as to what I consider important criteria. Please take these thoughts for what they are, observations based on my experiences with no details of your work, your work environment or your boss. Being the best programmer that someone has seen or even being a technically superior programmer isn't as important to me as a person's ability to get along with the rest of the staff, the users and especially anyone in upper management that they may interact with. If the technically superior program takes 1 1/2 times as long to write, test, debug and roll out than a less technically superior(hereafter referred to as T.S.) solution and they both do the same thing and are both maintainable then I don't want the T.S. one. In fact, it costs me money and time (which is sometimes more important than money!) I think you are selling yourself short when you put all your value on the code you write. In most cases, your boss will be less technical than you and won't be able to appreciate any "neat" coding techniques. He or she will be able to appreciate things like getting the job done close to when you say it will be done, not having to go back to a program or system after it's been implemented, hearing positive things and/or not hearing negative things from peers, users, etc, having a positive, upbeat attitude, being a team player, etc. Unless you were the one that fought for and convinced upper management that the AS/400 was the machine to have, I don't think you can take credit for the stability of your environment. All AS/400 shops have that luxury (necessity?) and it's not a matter of how well the system is managed. We have a company that has been running a 12 year old AS/400 that is still running V2R3. We are changing that now, but my point is they don't have any AS/400 problems and they obviously are not managing their environment. The AS/400 is stable! I may be wrong, but I don't think the only thing you are being judged on is the quality of your programs. I hope this perspective helps. Ed Chabot The Marlin Firearms Company 100 Kenna Drive North Haven, CT 06473 (203)985-3254 -----Original Message----- From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of MacWheel99@aol.com Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 6:43 AM To: AS400 & family discussion group Subject: Performance Review I just had my annual review & it was not a pretty sight. The good news includes - I still have my job - my boss has given me clear indication of what needs to be fixed & some overall goals, which have been sorely lacking in recent years. It occurs to me that it would be extremely constructive if I could provide my boss with some alternatives to the system he now uses, since he is not a computer technical person ... how on earth is a non technical computer person expected to be able to judge the quality of software I write in some language he does not know ... how challenging is this or that? There is stuff that is extremely difficult for me to do, but I cannot communicate with a non-programmer about what the challenges are. How can a non-programmer evaluate my performance? It would be simple for some 3rd party, familiar with the languages we use, to look at some of my programs in an audit & make some remarks about how my relative worth to the company, compared to the quality of code at other comparable companies, but I have been suggesting for decades that we get a computer audit on a larger scale, so this just aint going to happen. Of course this sort of thing can backfire. I remember in the midst of some conversion at a former emplouer whining about some challenge they had given me, saying that there is no way I can get all this done inside the deadlines, and my boss informing me that the company, without telling me, had asked IBM if I had what it took to do the conversion, without any professional help, and the SE (which tells you how long ago this was) told them that I was the best programmer that anyone at the local IBM office had ever had the good fortune to run across. So the result of that was they threw even more work my way. The shame of it was that when I finally left that place, I was unable to use the SE as a work reference. I did ask the SE for confirmation that this was not a snow job. I asked my current boss HOW MANY DAYS HAS THE COMPANY BEEN DOWN DUE TO COMPUTER INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS? He said NONE, in a tone of voice as if he was surprised that I should ask such a question. I told him that in my opinion there are 3 reasons why that is so ,,, our choice of having IBM 400 hardware, our choice of a good ERP, and my performance in managing it. Now I think that there ought to be some industry statistics - how many days of surprise down time & other mishaps do other comparable companies have - 400 & non-400, so there is a basis of comparison with our performance. How much time do companies typically spend testing software improvements? How critical is this? I was going to ask him, but I bit my tongue, because my foot was headed there at lightning speed. HOW MANY COMPUTER BUGS HAVE BEEN INTRODUCED AS A RESULT OF SOFTWARE I HAVE WRITTEN FOR THE COMPANY. The reason I bit my tongue is that I can think of 3 in the last 2 years & the really embarrassing part of that answer is that 1 of them I could not find, so I developed a work around. This is another area in which there might be some reliable statistics. Rate of bugs created, both in terms of like 1 bug per million lines of source code & how many in what time period It would not be fair to compare to Microsoft Windows because that software is written with full intention of tossing it in the garbage in 2-3 years when the next version comes out - we should compare with other 400 places whose software is intended to work for say 10 years at least. MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac) +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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