• Subject: Re: IPL source: ##MACH#A - Uh oh!
  • From: "Neil Palmer" <neilp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:41:05 -0400

Dan,

It does indeed appear from this that you are running on an 'A' side that 
is base V3R2 code.  Cum package C8139320 (the TL98139) is not necessarily 
the only package that has been applied to this system, but none of the 
others shown on your list (other than the 'RE' PTF's that were part of 
V3R2 base code) show as Permanently Applied.  (By the way, C8139320 was 
the LAST cum package issued for V3R2M0).
We can tell that no previous cum packages were permanently applied to the 
A side because they all show Superseded, right back to TL96144 (cum 
package C6144320).  If you had permanently applied previous cum packages 
the 'TL9nnnn' indicator PTF's would have show up as Permanently Applied, 
as TL97126 does in this example:
                              Display PTF Status 
                                                            Syste
Product ID  . . . . . . :   5763999 
IPL source  . . . . . . :   ##MACH#B 
Release . . . . . . . . :   V3R2M0 
 
 
Type options, press Enter. 
  5=Display PTF details   6=Print cover letter   8=Display cover 
 
     PTF                                                   IPL 
Opt  ID       Status                                       Action
     TL98139  Permanently applied                          None 
     TL98048  Superseded                                   None 
     TL97322  Superseded                                   None 
     TL97231  Superseded                                   None 
     TL97126  Permanently applied                          None 
     TL97063  Superseded                                   None 
     TL97014  Superseded                                   None 
     TL96317  Superseded                                   None 
     TL96282  Superseded                                   None 
     TL96233  Superseded                                   None
     TL96219  Superseded                                   None
     TL96191  Superseded                                   None
     TL96165  Superseded                                   None
     TL96144  Superseded                                   None
     RE96102  Permanently applied                          None


You need to scroll through the list to see if any of the 'MF' PTF's show 
as Permanently applied. 
They are the only ones that would be active when IPL'd from the 'A' side.

I think there was also a question about group PTF's.  These are refreshed 
on a regular basis so you always get the latest PTF's for a particular 
area (like Database, Fax, etc.).  These PTF's may make their way onto a 
future cumulative PTF package, but they are more current.  For example, 
you should have Database group PTF SF99105 available to apply after 
upgrading to V4R5.  In some cases (like the Y2K fixes for V3R2) there were 
no future cumulative PTF's packages planned for that release, so the PTF's 
in the Group PTF package would never appear on a cum PTF package.

As to whether you can apply additional PTF's at the same time as the 
cumulative PTF package, read the instructions for the cumulative package 
to see if that is allowed.  Sometimes you are instructed to apply the 
cumulative package (OR maybe selected PTF/s from it) before applying 
additional PTF's.  This usually occurs when there are PTF's to fix issued 
with the PTF application process itself.


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D.BALE@handleman.com
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2001/04/04 16:09
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        Subject:        IPL source: ##MACH#A - Uh oh!


After creating my original post on the cume & group PTFs, I came across an
interesting (?) situation on our V3R2 development box.

DSPPTF shows:
Product ID  . . . . . . :   5763999
IPL source  . . . . . . :   ##MACH#A
Release . . . . . . . . :   V3R2M0

Type options, press Enter.
  5=Display PTF details   6=Print cover letter   8=Display cover

     PTF                                    IPL
Opt  ID       Status                        Action
 _   TL98139  Temporarily applied           None
 _   TL98048  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97322  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97231  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97126  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97063  Superseded                    None
 _   TL97014  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96317  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96282  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96233  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96219  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96191  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96165  Superseded                    None
 _   TL96144  Superseded                    None
 _   RE97230  Permanently applied           None
 _   RE96102  Permanently applied           None
 _   MF19696  Save file only                None
 _   MF18809  Temporarily applied           None
etc....

Note that the last IPL source shows ##MACH#A.  If I interpret correctly 
that
the TL* entries are the cume PTFs, would it not appear that this box is
currently running on a totally non-cume'd bare V3R2 OS?  No one here has 
any
idea how long this box has been running in ##MACH#A; most likely since 
cume
98139 was applied.

I suppose I should IPL to ##MACH#B and run that for a week or so before
installing the latest/last cume (subject to the question of whether I 
should
even bother - see last post).

Again, all useful advice solicited.

Dan Bale
IT - AS/400
Handleman Company
248-362-4400  Ext. 4952
D.Bale@Handleman.com
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)


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