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  • Subject: RE: High availability questions
  • From: "Stone, Brad V (TC)" <bvstone@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 15:45:42 -0600

In 5 years, there will be a better solution that there is now.

Basically, from experience, I have found that it's more trouble to try and
keep the mirroring software working than just relying on good old faithful.

You're right about the 5 year thing.  Maybe even 2 years.  But by then
hopefully there will be a better solution.  Just my opinion.  That doesn't
mean ANYONE has to agree.

100k.  And that's just the initial price I bet not including yearly support,
etc.  Why would I want to pay 4 times as much for software than I did for
the machine?

See if these places will give free training, free support, and a free 6
month trial.  Then unplug your one AS/400 during a "scheduled" test.  If it
works, do it 5 more times, testing once a month (making sure everything is
mirrored and that the "switchover" happens in minutes).  If it doesn't,
offer them 2k for their trouble.

Brad

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art Tostaine, Jr. [mailto:art@link400.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:33 PM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: High availability questions
> 
> 
> Initial responses from vendors are coming in around the 
> expected high price
> of around $100K.
> 
> Brad:  Why would you try to convince someone that wants a 
> 24/7 HA solution
> that they don't need it?  It may just be a matter of time 
> until you are
> wrong.  You may be right for 5 years, but then you are REALLY wrong.
> 
> I have never had a customer who could justify spending $100K, 
> and I can
> understand that, but I would never argue against it.  I have 
> told them of
> the AS/400's reliability, but they are actually more 
> concerned with comm
> line and electricity availability than the AS/400.
> 
> Thanks for the input.
> 
> Art Tostaine, Jr.
> CCA, Inc.
> Jackson, NJ 08527
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Lurton Keel
> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 2:35 PM
> To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> Subject: RE: High availability questions
> 
> 
> I disagree about the necessity of 24/7.
> In a previous life I worked for an HVAC company and all (read 
> ALL) of the
> business came in over the telephone.  To dispatch a 
> technician you had to
> know the type of equipment, the address, etc.  We were in a 
> lot of states
> and were establishing a national call center.  If you 
> couldn't get to a
> customer's record you couldn't place the repair call and the 
> customer would
> call who ever was next in the yellow pages.
> 10 minutes of down time was totally unacceptable.
> We implemented Vision Solutions to a backup AS/400 across 
> town.  In test
> mode it worked fine. Luckily we never had to use it for real. 
>  I think we
> had < $100k in the software and implementation.
> 
> That did not include AS/400 and communications.
> 
> 
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