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Thanks for all the tips I had asked the question because this sort of thing happens almost every year with different players ... two years ago it was the Personnel Manager waiting until a few days after the Payroll had been completed for the Calendar Year, then asking for some reports that would have been a piece of cake to supply him had he asked before the Year End stuff. It is very common with physical inventory ... we create massive reports, lots of clues, people study the reports & after a week or so come up with specific questions about lists of items ... but the data with the answers is now gone. That is why in years past one of our physical steps was to copy certain key files at a stage of the process so they could be accessed months later. We do not have a test 400 We do have a test environment & that was a possible target ... I did not want to restore all our files, just those essential to the reports too late to run, that would have been identified by the time of the planned restore. From security perspective, I planned to run the reports FOR the users involved, since I would have to be using one time modified copies of their programs anyway. The original scenario has faded & a new one now has my focus. User # 1 needed to access report on $ spent for the year for Direct Material sorted by $ total in the vendor master file whose YTD fields were zeroed in the year end. I got him some quick & dirty reports off of costing in the inventory history file by vendor which I do not believe (the totals are too low). His problem was solved because of some other report (not in sequence of highest $ to lowest) that had the basic info that he ran 2 days before year end & thanks to another thread here that put me onto CPYSPLF, we now have our people able to get 400 reports (those that are still on the spool file) to a 400 file & from there to any PC spread sheet to reorder the data. This direct material $ high vendor to low vendor off vendor master us query/400 report so sounded simple to restore just that one file to some other library, copy the query to run it off of the other library. Scenario # 2 was that prior to our year end physical, there was a decision made to ignore the implications of WIP ... ie. those parts that are in some stage between discrete items ... my focus was on the computer records veracity side ... where the computer thinks we have thousands of items in that condition, but the physical only found 100 of them ... I was over-ruled on us doing anything about that because WIP accuracy was too much trouble ... well now that we finished year end & are several days into production, the decision to ignore WIP has been reversed & they want to get a cost on the WIP found in the physical & they need it pretty darn fast, but the people who are experts on that portion of our business are on vacation - remember management had decided we were not going to do anything with WIP. For this scenario, I currently plan to clone modify some software, because none of our current reports seem to provide the information that they now want & if it turns out I have misconstrued what they want, or we have more moving targets, this might justify restoring end-of-year backup of our ERP files to the TEST environment & doing it twice to simplify the logicals. We have used the CPYSPLF technique to get a ton of year end physical reports to 400 disk file to PC for analysis, but WIP was not in that picture because we were not going to do WIP so it was not on our check list of information to capture. We can only send spool file data to PC analysis when we had something on our check list to run when the data was available on the 400. Which is why my advice to these people includes THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO is define what we should have done & fix the check list so that history does not repeat the next time we are in this situation. Fortunately I have not done a purge of WIP orders since year end, so 95% of the data can probably be reconstructed using existing resources, but I consider that too much effort ... much simpler to modify existing reports to create a WIP costing report ... key in item facility & quantity found in physical ... get that part costed individually through each stage of production & the sub-total so far multiplied by the quantity found. This will also give me an excuse to try to talk them into giving me permission to write a program I think they have needed for years ... extract from the WIP orders the quantities currently at what stages of production & run that data through the new program I will be writing officially for this scenario & from that get a $ total of what is tied up in WIP as of the end of each fiscal month. But they will need to see the solved results of the current crisis to be able to visualize what I am getting at for the monthly picture. MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac) AS/400 Data Manager & Programmer for BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 mixed mode (twinax interactive & batch) @ http://www.cen-elec.com Central Industries of Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and electrical sub-assemblies - fax # 812-424-6838 +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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