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From MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac) Some questions might be better answered by other folks on this list, but I find these whole discussions highly educational - many people supply puzzles & we struggle through with solutions that also help ourselves. I am in the habit of attempting some solution then running up against a stone wall so I also am always thinking ahead - if this does not work then what try next. Of course one disadvantage of listening to me, I always have many more ideas than can be implemented in any reasonable time period - you have to pick & choose which of my ideas are the best to pursue. We have been changing message members to be more user-friendly & we have a CL to reinstate our versions. But this is more oriented to our applications - when the vendor sends updates of our ERP software, it is like IBM OS4, a lot of stuff reverts to vanilla whether we want it or not, so our CL reinstates some of our tailoring. From command line you can WRKOBJ then name of some object & I usually * asterisk wild card on end, also in PDM vs. source you can 8 I think it is, to get at statistical information on any object. This stuff can also be sent to an *OUTFILE to analyse which objects exhibit certain characteristics. Once Upon a Time, IBM had some bit or byte flag saying "This is still vanilla out of the box" as opposed to "The client has messed with this." Now if we knew where that is stored & I am sure IBM consultants & software modification places know that, we perhaps could do an *OUTFILE to a query to list all such IBM objects that have been tweaked since delivery. That would be too simple. What is stored that gets to *OUTFILE varies somewhat by type of object, but what I would want to find out is if any allegedly IBM objects in their external definition contain identity of person to have last changed them & if IBM staff "names" are distinguishable from our staff names. This assumes that SOMEONE at your firm can look at these names & identify some former staffer. For all you know, some of those names are hackers. We had one employee on his exit interview tell us that we ought to know that he had "discovered" the master security officer password & changed himself to a master security officer & "discovered" some more interesting things, and experimented with some of them. He originally found out due to some indiscretions by a consultant. Like you, he did not know how things were supposed to be done, so while he made some great enhancements, they were all lost in our last OS/400 upgrade. Until this volunteered information I was oblivious to this, because I was covered up in security problems, many of them due to our friendly helpful consultants. However, some objects *OUTFILE do not contain name of last user to change them so this may need multiple solution approaches. Presumably you still have the original CD for the OS4 version now installed. If there was some way to compare data on CD with data on hard disk to locate creation & change DATES of the external definitions, but hey if you know WHEN you installed the old OS4, then any change date SINCE that date would be suspicious unless it came via a PTF. In our case we have upgraded our box since our last OS4 upgrade, and a lot of stuff, that really has a vintage to before the box upgrade, shows it started at the date we copied stuff into the new box. If your other AS/400s can talk to each other, perhaps their *OUTFILEs of IBM objects can be compared to identify which are different. If they are on the same OS/400 version you would expect any differences to be due to errors of omission by computer staff, security problems you did not know you had, and real needs for different applications. Of course knowing WHAT COMMANDS etc. got changed is only part of the battle - you do not know HOW they were changed or WHY they were changed. IBM has various services, many of them free. Here is something for a wish list. Using the performance monitoring resources over the ECS line, get a report from IBM that identifies for us what all we have changed that originally came from IBM. Until IBM gets around to this, I am sure some consultants will ask if there is a market for the service. You can WRKSYSVAL F4 & take the option to *PRINT ... it will tell you which values have been changed at your company to other than how they were shipped from IBM. There may be other options like this, that I am oblivious to, that will tell us about other things we have that are now different from how they were shipped from IBM. The way things are done should be documented some place some how some way to help future staff, but different people are comfortable with different ways of documenting. I am on green screen so all my in-house documents are via PDM in places like QDOCSRC as TXT members. I also have some work-related documents on my home PC & I periodically remind co-workers that if I get run over by a union truck tomorrow, here is how to find those documents on my home PC. You are new to Wesfarmers - are you also new to AS/400? While this is a great AS/400 list, there are also many other similar services. I have links to many on my IE Favorite Places & just learned how to get them to a transferrable attachment ... have not actually done so yet, but plan to use the technique to reorganize my Favorite Places & perhaps offer secondary lists of just AS400 connections. > From: Dwayne.Lindner@writ.wesfarmers.com.au (Dwayne Lindner) > > Thanks for the tips Alister. > We actually found an old CL written back in 97 to do exactly that - > it was last run when the company upgraded to V4R3 - > unfortunately I've only been here two months so I'm not fully aware of the > ways things are done as yet. However, as always, danger lurks. We have two > other As/400's that are being upgraded here in the next few weeks, and we > don't believe the CL solution has been implemented - is there any way to > discover the changes that have already been made so we can create a CL to > change the new system when it's upgraded ? > > Thanks!! > > Dwayne Lindner > Senior Analyst - Data Centre > Wesfarmers Rural Division > 184 Railway Parade, Bassendean WA 6054 > Ph: (08) 9273 5365 > Email: dwayne.lindner@writ.wesfarmers.com.au MacWheel99@aol.com (Alister Wm Macintyre) (Al Mac) AS/400 Data Manager & Programmer for BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 mixed mode (twinax interactive & batch) @ http://www.cen-elec.com Central Industries of Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and electrical sub-assemblies - fax # 812-424-6838 +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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