Re: Java

["L. S. Russell" <leslier@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Just wanted to show that Java is actually in a flux state among the
people who put it on the map.  Those open source developers are calling
for a change in the way Sun has been handling Java and I feel that it is
coming to a head.  

Ted Barry wrote:
> 
> Makes no difference to our organization, we're sticking to tried and true
> RPG/RPGIV/RPG ILE/and now.........e-RPG.
> 
> >>> "L. S. Russell" <leslier@datrek.com> 08/23/00 10:28am >>>
> Poll circulating on the Web.
> 
> A poll circulating among various developer groups is asking for a vote
> on
> whether Sun should make Java open source. Kevin Burton, the
> developer
> who organized the poll, calls Java
> "broken." He says that depending on the results of the poll, he may ask
> the open source community to drop Java in
> favor of a clean-room implementation such as a Classpath/GNU compiler.
> 
> "Java isn't getting ported to non-popular operating systems, isn't
> getting new features, isn't solid," says Burton, who
> created the Apache Jetspeed and Alexandria projects and founded
> www.openprivacy.org. "I'm fine with letting
> Sun and the Java Community Process work out the language spec and
> high-level features, but the implementation
> should be done in an open manner."
> 
> This is not Burton's first go-around with Sun--in March he organized a
> petition asking
> Sun to open some of its Java tools. However, Sun is increasingly
> entwined with
> various open source organizations--including the Apache
> Foundation--and
> said last
> week it is depending on open source developers to help build an open
> systems
> competitor to Microsoft.Net. That effort revolves around StarOffice and
> the Gnome
> interface, which will both be available under the GNU Public License.
> 
> Opinion so far is divided. As of Monday, 28.8 percent of developers
> voting said there
> was nothing wrong with Sun's Java licensing, while 26 percent said
> Java
> should also
> be made available under the GPL.
> 
> Burton thinks all of Java should be developing the way the Tomcat
> project is
> developing under Apache's sponsorship. Sun donated its reference
> implementation for
> Java servlets and Java Server Pages to Tomcat after its own Java Web
> server was
> dropped by iPlanet (the Sun-Netscape alliance). The goal is to create an
> open source Java-enabled Web server
> for the industry. Burton says Sun's Java Community Process controls the
> Java servlet specification and Tomcat
> controls the implementation.
> 
> A Sun spokeswoman says developers should approach the Java
> Community
> Process with ideas on Java
> development and not Sun.
> 
> Until Sun makes a decision on opening Java, getting a Java license can
> mean a battle. Cleanroom Java vendor
> Tower Technology announced that after over three years of negotiating
> it
> has finally been granted a license to
> Java 2. Tower is also participating in Sun's Java Community Process and
> is working with Sun engineers on
> passing Sun's compatibility tests. Tower specializes in improving
> server-side Java performance and is aiming its
> technology at XML servers, personalization portals, data mining, and B2B
> exchanges.
> 
> "This erases customers' concerns, opens more channels of distribution
> for us, and allows a free exchange of
> information between us and other Java licensees," says Tower VP
> Madison
> Cloutier.
> 
> Tower's chief competitor is IBM, which last week licensed the IBM Java
> developer kit for Linux to
> Inprise/Borland. An IBM spokesman says IBM believes it is within the
> rights of its Sun license to redistribute a
> compatible Java runtime.
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