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Look at Al Barsa's post on Netscape Security problem. Give some statistics on the rate at which the PC world has to put up with security scares of one kind or another ... my anti virus is protecting me against 50,000 viruses in the wild. I get my AV updated about once every 10 days & when I do so, I browse the NAV support forum on what's the latest hassles ... they are getting hundreds of posts a day from new victims, although most of the tales of woe are from people who did not get it on the degree of self-training needed to use these PC products & stay out of trouble. What kind of cost does it add to businesses running on recent state-of-art Windows world to have to protect against this kind of nonsense? AS/400 does not (yet) have these kind of problems (viruses & hackers) although the bad guys are trying to figure out how to get into AS/400, they are still thinking in Unix & PC terms, and IBM has decades of white hat security for them to penetrate when they do understand midrange systems. Check archives on "So if there is no Hardware specific Advertising" ... Jim Franz had a post 7/18 am or 7/17 pm regarding major differences between AS/400 & the competition .. security, data base integration, backup & recovery, scalability, availability 24x7x365, staff size needed for management, 3-5 year operations cost, we do not get illegal operations or general protection faults, the OS handles disk space management ... it is unneccessary for MIS or end users to be doing housekeeping tasks like scan disk or speed disk or optimize placement, and we never lose clusters. When we have multiple hard drives, we do not have to specify which hard drive something is on, the addressing is continuous. We do not have to come up with a system for packaging the data that works for the BIOS & end up with wasted space, because ... well explain the significance of 64 bit operating system on 64 bit hardware. When we get a new release of the operating system, it comes with thousands of enhancements & for our current applications there is UPWARD COMPATIBILITY which means that we do not have to spend big bucks & inconvenience to replace applications that run on the old OS with the version that runs on the next OS. We can pick & choose which of the features of the new OS we want to use & for those we are not using, we do not have to clutter our hard drive. Upward Compatibility is a concept that was invented in the Midrange world several decades ago, but it has not yet been reinvented for the PC world. There is so much like this that we take for granted today, but is worth a sentence or bullet in your document, with perhaps a link to a larger definition. Now it is true that for every thousand enhancements, we tend to lose one old feature & sometimes some people were using that feature. We do get some strange error messages. MIS staff has to know what we are doing with a system that is NOT the same as UNIX LINUX Windows DOS etc. I asked in an earlier thread about a similar question ... facts about the AS/400 & white papers that put these facts into a perspective that is understandable to the non-technical person who knows squat about platforms & languages, but understands operating cost, staffing size, down time, disaster recovery ... and here are bookmarks to some links I gotta check out some time, some suggested by John Carr & Janet Krueger ... I have barely scratched this surface, but along the way found some interesting links, so some of the bookmarks here did not come from recent MIDRANGE-L posts but rather from some place I got to by following suggestions read here. http://solar.rtd.utk.edu/~mtaylor/vendors.html http://news.excite.com/news/zd/000721/13/ibm-wins-oracle http://www.lansa.com/ - take SPOTLIGHT link to AS/400 sites powered by LANSA http://www.ignite400.org/ - take SHOWCASE link to AS/400 sites by industry http://www.firstcalldirect.ie - take MOTOR link http://www.common.org http://www.midrange.com http://www.infoworld.com/testcenter/index_f.html http://www.infoworld.com/news/as400.html http://www.as400network.com/str/pdfs/ http://www.dhagroup.com http://www.as400.ibm.com/whpapr/index.htm http://www.as400.ibm.com/developer/porting/pubs.htm http://www.yourdon.com/index.htm http://ctdp.homestead.com/files/index.html I do not remember the subject title of the thread that talked about WHY Microsoft could not get 1200 NT servers to replicate 23 AS/400ds. My recollection was that it had to do with enforcing business rules across terabytes of data. NT servers can handle the data from a user access perspective, they just cannot talk effectively to the other servers, from perspective of the data being logically consistent. AS/400ds can talk effectively to other AS/400ds, and handle the data management cross-indexing issues that come with terabytes of information. But there are three issues here for your project - we need to communicate what the AS/400 is NOT, in terms of the garbage that other computer systems ARE, then we need to communicate what the AS/400 IS, for those topics that are so alien to the rest of the computer world that they do not know how to appreciate what they do not have. And it has to be crammed into a format that is friendly to any visitor. Consider the format of the site http://www.moosoft.com/tc3vsav.html Now this outfit is claiming that the major anit-virus packages do a lousy job of protecting against Trojans & THEY do a much better job, but hey, I still have a major package because Trojans are only one part of a bigger picture. However, I mention them because of the format. Chart features that one might expect to find in most major computer systems & what is unique about each ... include traditional hassles & how they translate in operating cost & staffing overhead, then place some rankings. This is a major problem, minor problem, non-existant problem for this particular type of computer system. This is wonderful from perspective of software aquisition costs & end user ease of use (e.g. externally defined universal relational data base that is accessible by so many different languages & user tools). Which other systems have anything comparable & if you can get it, how much extra $$$ does it cost? So at the high level, you have concepts like UPWARD COMPATIBILITY which OS/400 has but Windows etc. does not have & this is in the section on good things to have in a computer system ... and concepts like VIRUSES & HACKERS which OS/400 does not have, but Windows etc, do have & this is in the section on added costs of doing business using this operating system which most businesses do not want. Then there is a link for each ingredient or bullet in your chart to define what is this concept of VIRUSES that OS/400 does not have, with links on the Windows side to the cost to business to have to protect against them & links on the OS/400 side to evidence that this is not part of the OS/400 reality, and in each side, cross-linked so while reviewing OS/400 evidence that this is not a reality here, can get to stories on what the cost is for dealing with this on the kinds of computers vulnerable to them. So I am suggesting a format that at the high level just has a list of simple statements regarding AS/400 advantages & each one has a link to more information, in which you might have a whole page for each of the simple statements, filled with links to more information related to that one concept. Al Macintyre ©¿© MIS Manager Green Screen Programmer & Computer Janitor of BPCS 405 CD Rel-02 running on AS/400 V4R3 http://www.cen-elec.com Central Industries of Indiana--->Quality manufacturer of wire harnesses and electrical sub-assemblies +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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