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----- Original Message ----- From: <pytel@us.ibm.com> > of course it is unpleasant when application locks up the system. > But is operating system always to blame ? imho, yes. Isn't the operating system supposed to be in control? And parcel out resources to various applications? Should it allow any application to simply take over *all* resources, so that an operator can't even end the application? > Just the other day I've had a problem with Unix application. > It had some bug which led it it to consume all paging space available > on system. > Unix sent a message to console - "Paging space low" and quietly died. > Was it a Unix fault - or application fault ? Sounds like a Unix fault to me. Why couldn't it simply stop giving resources to all applications until something is done about the problem by the operator/user? Why do you think it good form for the os to simply die? > Shall I scrap Unix box ? The hardware isn't the problem, it's the operating system. Fix it. Get it fixed. If an application can crash the operating system, isn't that as big a problem as any virus? These are the kinds of problems that get me very irate at Windoze. When I switched to NT at home, it was a huge relief to have a task manager that 99% of the time allows me to zap offending applications. Why can't OS/400 and Unix do that much? Don't get me wrong, I think the AS/400 is great hardware and OS/400 is a really good o/s. The only time I've heard of an application taking over like that is when someone set their interactive priority to 1. Actually, this sounds a lot like what Richard Jackson was investigating -- low priority jobs interfering with higher priority jobs. Can't someone keep a priority 10 job going that can shut down Domino when it locks up the system? Peter Dow Dow Software Services, Inc. 909 425-0194 voice 909 425-0196 fax > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > +--- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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