RE: Final thread: Gold nugget -- MIDRANGE-L

Justin:

You have a point but answer me this, Mr. Wizard <bg>  Why would anyone have
140,000 jobs on a 400?

I can think of only two reasons.  (1) They create job logs and don't delete
them or (2) they create spool files and leave them on the system.

So who reads these job logs?  Nobody can read that many job logs.  The other
half of the problem is that they don't delete the logs.  Well, that can't go
on forever.  You already told us that.  There are two reasonable answers for
this.  Either set logging to (4 0 *nolist) or delete all the jobs logs more
than 2 days old.  Neither is a challenge.  In my opinion, all other choices
rely on something being true that is, in my experience, either never true or
almost never true.  I suggest that the design follow the most like path, not
the impossible or almost impossible path.

Using WRKSPLF to review reports is fine but not when you have 140,000 of
them.  There are much better ways to archive spool data than leaving them as
unprinted reports in dead jobs.  There are archive programs that roll spool
files off to disk, there are PC programs that do the same thing, there
microfiche programs, services - a million choices all better than leaving
them in jobs on the 400.

Do you think that it is okay for people to create more than 100,000 job
logs?  Is it okay to have all those dead jobs hanging around just for the
spool files?

Now, here's my point.  You say below, "Rather than bickering back and forth
about how many jobs actually can exist, why not be thankful that he saved
himself one heck of a hard crash?"  Why not try to figure out a way to stop
paying the huge price for all of those jobs in the first place?

Richard Jackson
mailto:richardjackson@richardjackson.net
www.richardjacksonltd.com
Voice: 1 (303) 808-8058
Fax:   1 (303) 663-4325

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Haase, Justin C.
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 10:52 AM
To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
Subject: Final thread: Gold nugget


Folks,

Rather than bickering back and forth about how many jobs actually can exist,
why not be thankful that he saved himself one heck of a hard crash?  Sure,
you can get 160,xxx jobs in the system, but if you've been around to see
yours hit 140k, you know what trouble it is to even get to a command line or
see your outqueues.  So, rather than cluttering up the list anymore, just
leave it at the fact that yes, you can have more than 140k but if you get
much higher you risk going casters-up.  Thanks.

Justin C. Haase
AS/400 Systems Administrator
Kingland Systems Corporation
phone - 641.494.1535
fax - 641.424.1669
cellular - 641.430.6381
pager - 641.422.3023
e-mail - justin.haase@kingland.com
alpha page - 5550923.beeper@pager.beeperpeople.com


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