Re: Web serving from the AS/400

[booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx]

Jim, Last year at our Annual User Combined User Group meeting I answered 
the question "What's the most popular Internet Server?" (Apache) and won a 
fully functional copy of Net Fusion.  It supports most browsers, even the 
early ones, and lets you decide how you want HTML generated.  It has some 
very elegant tools.  The tutorial is a must.  One feature I especially 
like is that you can point Net Fusion at a site and suck down every page, 
all the images, etc.  It includes a large section on forms and data 
handling.  It's $399 but there's always a rebate of at least $100 
somewhere.  There are lots of samples, lots of templates, and it handles 
navigation bars, frames, and borders magically.  There is even a site map 
tool for your site.  This product makes MS Frontpage look like MS left the 
doors off.

_______________________
Booth Martin
Booth@MartinVT.com
http://www.MartinVT.com
_______________________




"Jim Franz" <franz400@triad.rr.com>
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06/18/2000 11:40 PM
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Don't be afraid of HTML. There are several sources for learning the html
that runs well in multiple browsers.
I took several on-line courses from www.ed2go.com They provide their 
courses
thru community colleges everywhere. They have Basic HTML, Advanced HTML, 
Web
Graphics, Dreamweaver, FrontPage, CGI-Bin, JavaScript, Search Engines, 
Java
and more. I took Basic & Advanced HTML, and Web Graphics. Very well done.
For HTML, there are some MS-FrontPage alternatives free or cheap. Try
http://www.evrsoft.com/company/ for First2000, an free HTML design tool, or
http://www.sausage.com/ for HotDog, a cheap HTML design tool. These are not
major dev tools, but they have the buttons & help to build HTML rapidly,
without having to lookup every tag & what it does.
The two courses above gave me the foundation needed, plus some insight 
into
how to build fast, efficient pages. Your html can be a major drag on
performance. The sad/funny part is that, after completing the two courses
over 6 weeks, my 14 year old daughter sat down and learned it all in 3 
days
(during a snowstorm last winter).
For a reference book, I use "Using HTML 4, XML, and Java 1.2"  published 
by
Que.
If anyone knows a more advanced HTML tool, with support for multiple
browsers, please let me know.
Hope this helps.
Jim Franz
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From: <booth@martinvt.com>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: Web serving from the AS/400


> Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall.
>
> You just gave the single most compelling reason I've seen yet for
> externally described printer files.  I wish I'd started using them 5 
years
> ago instead of 2 years ago.
>
> HTML reminds me a great deal of CL in that it is easy to be passably 
good.
>  The crunch of course is Microsoft's determination to hijack the 
internet
> and their decision to "extend" everything they touch.  As a result I am
> finding HTML to be dangerous.
>
> But you talked me into it.  Buy Brad's book, buy it off Midrange.com to
> keep David's efforts solvent.  Thanks John. Will do.
>
> _______________________
> Booth Martin
> Booth@MartinVT.com
> http://www.MartinVT.com
> _______________________
>
>
>
>
> jpcarr@TREDEGAR.COM
> Sent by: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> 06/18/2000 12:27 PM
> Please respond to MIDRANGE-L
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>
>
> Booth
>
> I bought Brad Stones's   e-RPG  book.   Buy it!
>
> I just took a complicated P & L report program I did in RPGIV(it took a
> long time to write  years ago).
> Within an hour I converted the WRITE to the printer file to out put to 
the
> Browser !!!!
>
> The users  have the report online, in a Browser now !.    What is
> incredible is that I leveraged the
> existing application designed to print,  to output to the browser, which
> it
> was never intended to do.
>
> VERY VERY Easy !!!
>
> The users are thrilled.   They think we are finally doing "Modern"
> programming(ie browser output).
>
> The inquiries and reports are now links off our intra-net.
>
> They do not know that I am still using an Archaic language like RPG.
>
> They probably think I am using some thing like Java, VB or some "Modern"
> language.
>
>
> Bottom line.   RPG-CGI programs ROCK !   If you want to put stuff up
> quick,
> Reuse existing logic.  It ROCKS.
>
> It will give you time to learn Java and other strategic directions and 
be
> productive (and look good to your managers) while you are learning.
>
> Next step?   Double my rates as now I'm an Web Developer !  <VBG>
>
> John Carr
> EdgeTech
>
> P.S.  buy a book on HTML and learn it.   It's the CL of the internet.
>
>
> -----------------------------
> Lets say I used the web server on a box at V4R4.  Could I get data from
> the web page into an RPG program easily using something like Net Object
> Fusion to make the web pages?
> _______________________
> Booth Martin
> Booth@MartinVT.com
> http://www.MartinVT.com
>
>
>
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