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     Pet peeve #10651462
     
     I fit in the "under 40" category (32 now, 15 yrs in 3x/400), but 
     have never been allowed the opportunity to attend a tech 
     conference, despite numerous requests. Typically, if anyone in the 
     shop is sent for education, it's the "greybeard" who may or may not 
     even be interested in learning new tricks.....  
     
     Our company recently sent one of the pgming managers to tech school 
     (communications) knowing full well that he was preparing to leave 
     the company.  This does not seem practical or cost effective as we 
     still have a lack of expertise that needs to be remedied (again). 
     IMO, too many organizations view tech conferences as a form of paid 
     vacation and are handed out as "rewards" instead of determining 
     where/who has technical interests. You can bet that if given the 
     opportunity, I'd be there. I have nothing against TFM, it's been 
     the best resource I've had access to, but some day I'd just love to 
     try the alternative to hours/weeks of grueling study and/or 
     guesswork (on my own time, usually) to extract the appropriate 
     materials from the books.
     
     BTW, I view this list as one of the BEST resources available to 
     gain exposure to new techniques. I learn more in a few weeks by 
     reading the mountain of emails than I'd learn in months of 
     self-study.
     
     JMO,
     eric.delong@pmsi-services.com


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Subject: Re: The "greying of Common"  Is it still true? 
Author:  <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> at INET_WACO
Date:    4/1/00 2:10 PM


     
     
Booth,
     
several of us (including a few of the conf organizers) noticed the same 
phenomenon...that being that the under 40 crowd seems to be growing...and 
in some cases rather impressively so.  I was really impressed to see alot 
of the under 40'ers at teh conf...keep up the good work...I might come 
back next year...:)
     
Don in DC
     
--------
     
On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 boothm@earth.Goddard.edu wrote:
     
> This week was the 10th Annual Northeast User Group's two day conference. 
> The conference was wall-to-wall AS/400.  We sold out the hotel for both 
> nights.
> 
> In one session there was a panel with the top AS/400 people around, Craig 
> Pelkey, Al Barsa, Roger Pence, Wayne Evans, and Peter Martin.  One 
> question dealt with the cliche about the failure of the AS/400 community 
> to attract young people.  Everyone somberly nodded their head in 
> agreement.  Except me.  I looked around the room and saw under-30 people 
> everywhere, including Peter Martin who can't be over 22.
> 
> So, my question:  Has the situation changed? Are there young people in 
> your shop? Is the AS/400 going the way of the Shaker villages?
> 
> _______________________
> Booth Martin
> boothm@earth.goddard.edu
> http://www.spy.net/~booth
> _______________________
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