Re: MAKEMONEY cmd

[MacWheel99@xxxxxxx]

From Al Macintyre (You may call me Mac)

We possibly could make it true ... add a co-op module to PIE ... IBM's 
Partners in Education ... as students in colleges & according to the latest 
News/400, PIE is now going into the high schools, get some certificates of 
learning specific pieces of key-know-how, is there anything these people 
could be constructively used for at shops that have permanent temporary MIS 
backlogs?

Traditional engineering colleges have students spening a semester or quarter 
in classes, alternating with entry level work relevant to the subjects they 
are learning, with major businesses & industry in partnership with the 
academic institutions, so that when a co-op student goes back to school, some 
other co-op student alternates so the company always has a fixed number of 
engineering students working there at entry level training wages, but when 
the student graduates, he or she has the inside track at getting a related 
job that is beyond entry level.

Computer Science needs something similar.

However, the nature of the work reality for computer professionals is such 
that the traditional 8-5 job for a fixed time period really does not apply.  
Companies need people to write & test some programs, until the project is 
done & then if happy with the work, offer same people involvement in another 
later project.  We need part time operators to handle MIS stuff that we have 
not yet figured out how to automate.

I think that the co-op concept could be adapted to this.

I have a real hard time getting away for a week or so at a time to IBM school 
to get caught up on evolving HLL skills, because someone has to be around to 
handle simplistic operations that a PIE graduate might be able to handle on a 
part time basis ... simplistic to 400 professionals but out of the area of 
specialist knowlege that end users normally able to handle.

Think of PIE graduates getting summer jobs doing some stuff at 400 sites that 
would permit MIS people to have what passes in real society as normal summer 
vacations, then the temporary employer issue something that the PIE graduate 
can use to demonstrate relevant experience in the MAKEMONEY job stream.

>  From:    dougl1@execpc.com (Doug Lewis)
>  
>  Al,
>  
>  This would be nice if it was true, but when was the last time you attempted
>  to get a position without any experience?
>  AS/400 entry level jobs are hard to come by in the current market, almost
>  everyone wants experience. IBM does not have to convince students,
>  businesses need to hire them (required parm for MAKEMONEY cmd) and word of
>  mouth will do the rest.
>  
>  Doug Lewis
>  AS/400 Student
>  Milwaukee Area Tech College
>  
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Al Barsa, Jr." <barsa2@ibm.net>
>  Subject: Re: The "greying of Common" Is it still true?
>  
>  > What IBM has needs to do, and has failed to do IMHO, is convince college
>  > faculties and then students that after they learn after they learn those
>  > crazy CL commands, the byproduct will be to automatically execute the
>  > MAKEMONEY command.
>  >
>  > Al
>  >
>  > Al Barsa, Jr. - Account for Midrange-L
>  > Barsa Consulting, LLC.

Al Macintyre  ©¿©
http://www.cen-elec.com MIS Manager Programmer & Computer Janitor
The road to success is always under construction.
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