Re: Re: Sales Pitches

[Glenn Ericson <Glenn-Ericson@xxxxxxx>]

Phil
 can we please, just let this die.

At 09:08 AM 02/11/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Dean, I am entitled to comment on anything regarding the AS/400 or this
list. I brought up a policy of the list master that I feel is  
>wrong, in the hopes that others would agree with me and come forward. 
> 
>As it happened the vast majority do not agree with me on this, no big
deal. I appreciate your critique of some of my more scathing remarks. It
happens sometimes when one is losing an argument, that the resentment gets
expressed in such a  manner. I do apologize to anyone who was insulted.   
>Phil
>
>MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com wrote:
>> Phil,
>
>In a message dated 2/9/00 5:46:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
>pike4@ix.netcom.com writes:
>
>> Bob, It's fine when you offer advice, and you do it in a professional 
>manner, 
>> not like some of these fellows who retell how they saved the World Trade 
>> Center every few weeks. When you start selling your products here, that 
>> violates the integrity of the list, and people are very concerned with 
>that. 
>> Look at what happens when someone suspects that they are being spammed via 
>> this list.
>
>Apparently, my "chill out" message did not reach the list -- must have been 
>due to the highly publicized "hacker" attacks of late >8(.  I believe that 
>David explained the vendor situation quite well and succinctly -- perhaps 
>less succinctly than _SHOULD_ have been necessary, but perhaps too much so 
>for yourself.
>
>Avoiding the "no flame" rule is quite difficult for me at this point.  In 
>mentioning "The World Trade Center Incident" as an example, you have not
only 
>impugned the character of one of the greatest AS/400 supporters in the
world, 
>but misrepresented your own position in doing so.  If you'll review the 
>archives, that incident has been mentioned _FAR_ fewer times and _FAR_ less 
>frequently than you imply, and then only in both a professional manner and 
>response to a related question.  That man has done more for the AS/400 
>community free of charge and in his spare time than most of us will while 
>earning money for the same task.  His _FREE_ assistance during my first 
>COMMON conference as an independent has been essential to my five years of 
>success in that endeavor, and he has helped countless others in the same 
>manner.  Your review of the various "Who's who on the AS/400" lists _MIGHT_ 
>be prudent before you begin to cast aspersions.
>
>David, David Gibbs, and _ONLY_ David Gibbs determines what "violates the 
>integrity of the list."  _YOUR_ vote doesn't count, and you should e-mail
him 
>directly if you have a problem, rather than air your grievances before an 
>audience that already tires of even _slightly_ irrelevant content.  Vendors 
>saying "call me" is a sign of respect for the list, taking their discussions 
>off line after everyone knows what they offer in response to the question 
>rather than exposing all of us to the endless tripe that inevitably follows 
>an offer of service here.
>
>And sign _ALL_ of your missives so that we don't have to research your name 
>in saved e-mail...
>
>Regards,
>
>Dean Asmussen
>Enterprise Systems Consulting, Inc.
>Fuquay-Varina, NC  USA
>E-mail:  DAsmussen@aol.com
>
>"Anyone who is not liberal in their youth has no heart.  Anyone who is not 
>conservative in their adulthood has no brain." -- Winston Churchill
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