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  • Subject: Re: MPTN/Anynet... on V4R1
  • From: Chuck Lewis <clewis@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:59:04 +0000

Thanks Jim,

The more we talk here, the more things change :-)

Hey, I was just on IBM's web site TRYING to find an ethernet nic for our 620
(still trying... grrrrr...) but did run across the "The IBM 2218 Nways® Frame
Relay Access Device (FRAD)" that " interconnects devices and hosts across a 
Frame
Relay or local area network (LAN). It channels SNA, SSC, asynchronous and
multiprotocol LAN traffic into a single Frame Relay PVC. The 2218 eliminates the
need for separate wide are network (WAN) links for legacy LAN traffic.

Where would this fit in ? Any idea ?

Thanks !

Chuck

Jim Langston wrote:

> One possibility you might want to look at is Motorola.
> Motorola is a lot cheaper than Cisco (dramatically so)
> and they do SNA encapsulation in IP.  If price is a big
> issue, I would get a few quotes for Motorola equipment
> (6500 series programmable router at your main office,
> small equipment in your remote sites.  I was looking at
> 3 remote sites and corporate headquarters, all hardware
> for $5000 total.  Cisco 10k+, Micom 20k+)
>
> If you really want to use Perle they have new equipment
> that does SNA over frame relay.  I seem to recall they
> were about the same in price as Cisco, but couldn't do as
> much as the Motorola.  594e I think they are.
>
> The one that does the most, imo, is the Motorola, because
> you can do (with the same equipment) IP, SNA over IP,
> voice over IP, IPX, Frame Relay, DSL, Dedicated, T1,
> 56k etc... Just about anything you can think of you can
> configure the Motorola 6500 series to do (I was looking
> specifically at the 6520, one of the "smaller" boxes).
>
> Good luck.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Langston
>
> Chuck Lewis wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > We are looking at dumping our 56k leased lines and going with frame
> > relay. We are located in one state and until VERY recently frame was not
> > a good deal. That changed...
> >
> > We have NO LANs (yes) and are using Perle 494E control units. MCI is who
> > we are working with and we will be using a Cisco 2610 here and the
> > 1750's at the remotes.
> >
> > The question comes in how to connect up the Perle control units.
> >
> > Turns out our choice are:
> >
> > (1) "turn MPTN/Anynet on on the 400" and stick ethernet cards in the
> > Perle units. This strips off SNA and routing bits and wraps it in IP.
> >
> > (2) Run DLSW (Data Link Switching) on the routers to enable routing SNA.
> >
> > The down side of this is that it COULD slow things down with the
> > overhead involved. We have sub second response time now but I CERTAINLY
> > do not want to do anything to jeopardize that.
> >
> > We were leaning towards #2 because it was going to be the most cost
> > effective at this time (knowing that it is preferable to do pure IP)...
> >
> > Also, won't either scenario require a NIC card in the AS/400 ?
> >
> > Any thoughts ?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Chuck
>
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