You should see the mud that is flying around with IBM in NZ at moment with the failed Police "INCIS" project and the loss of the 10billion$ Telecom new 10 year IT outsourcing to EDS. A lot of IBM employess have been made redundant. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 9:52 AM Subject: Re: IBM knows how to treat it's employess..... > I received the following note from one of the Rochester employees. Do any > of you view this as a practical suggestion? I'll be interested to hear > your thoughts... > > Janet Krueger > Rochester Technology Center, part of D H Andrews Group > > > Janet, > The attached note got me to thinking. AS/400 has some of the most > committed customers and business partners in the industry. What if one or > all of the following took place: > > 1) A significant number of large customers and business partners > petitioned the board of directors, complaining of the lack of advertising > and marketing support for AS/400. > > 2) A group of customers and business partners formed a consortium and > kicked off an advertising campaign of their own. You might ask, why should > a non-IBM group step up to take responsibility for advertising an IBM > product? Well, the answer is in the attached note. Our business partners > in particular make a lot of money selling AS/400s, and their livelihood is > threatened by the bizarre actions of these clueless IBM executives who have > never even tried to understand the AS/400 or, for that matter, the I/T > industry in general. You too, though you're no longer an IBMer, have a > vested interest in seeing the AS/400 continue and in fact flourish. > > 3) A group of customers and business partners formed a consortium to > purchase the AS/400 business from IBM. This one may be really far-fetched. > I have no clue whether any of our business partners would have the > financial wherewithal to pull something like that off. > > Janet, you have a lot of contacts and enormous respect with COMMONers > and business partners. Maybe if you could make this sort of suggestion to > certain key people we would at least see 1) and I think even 2) is not > really that far-fetched. I suppose 3) is so far-fetched it would be best > not even to mention it to anyone so as not to damage credibility. Still, > it's an interesting thought. Someone in my department suggested that Al > Barsa might be one that could pull some people together to get started on > something like 1) or 2). If you like any of these ideas and want to push > them, please remove references to my name. As a current IBM employee, I'm > not sure what sort of retaliation from execs I might be opening myself up > for by suggesting any of this. I'm legally protected for union organizing > or EEOC filings, but I'm not so sure about this. I don't want to give > anybody any excuses. > > > Subject: IBM knows how to treat it's employess..... > > If nothing else, it's nice to see that at least some of our customers can > see the effects of last week's announcement. (For those who don't know, > midrange-l is an e-mail discussion list about "midrange" computers, which > contains lots of discussion about the AS/400.) > > This is from the midrange forum from a non-IBMr.......... > ------------------------------------------------- > Subject: IBM knows how to treat it's employess..... > > First they mess around with the pension and then this..... > > Workforce cuts! Looks like Palmisano's first move is to be a hatchet man > and reduce the Server group workforce. Supposedly the cuts affect all > server groups but Rochester may face the worst of it. > > Let's see now. Create a great machine. Than market it like anthrax. When > things get a little tough take it out on the people's who's work and > efforts you didn't market properly. I hope Stephenson gets a equitable > action taken against him..... > > This will be real interesting. These cuts could be beneficial but they > could spell more trouble. There is a great risk that good people will > leave (as they already have), that more will be let go, and that certain > projects will be cut. All for what is essentially a management > problem....... > > Sorry for the digression on this technical list but I feel this may all > impact us eventually. > > Respectfully > > Mike Crump > > > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: email@example.com > +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: firstname.lastname@example.org +---
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