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Joel Fritz wrote: > > I dunno--people sometimes do funny things when they dislike each other. > OK, I've watched this thread long enough, SOAPBOX(*on) If you lock the door, they come in through the Window (pun intended <g>) IMO, 95% of the users are there to get their job done and couldn't give a squat about technology. It's the tool handed to them and they acquiesce to it's use. Half of them don't even have a PC at home. Depending on the pecking order, it drops from there. I once heard that locks keep honest people honest. If a thief want's in, they'll get in. Period. Most you'll catch, the rest will let you know where you've left access. Are users sloppy about security? You bet. Why? They're honest and naturally expect that from their coworkers. Security, or should I say cynicism / suspicion, is not in their job description. This human trait is the weak link in any security plan. We could all run our systems at level 40/50 and still have breaches that are beyond any contrived technology. What one is asked to do is to take "reasonable measures" to "insure" security. The debate starts once a breach occurs or an audit questions if what is in place is "reasonable". Way back when (the Earth's crust was still cooling) there was a study done on security breaches. The target was insurance companies. Now the companies were diligent with requiring expirations of passwords and their computer generated a series of non repeating, non redundent, random letters/numbers. Noone could guess them. The passwords were so hard to remember that the users wrote them down on a Post-it and slapped it on the face of their CRT. To break into their system required a pair of binoclars from across the street. Read all the passwords you want. Sniffing packets is for technogeeks that can't see the forest for the trees. =;-p Make your plans, dot your I's, cross you T's, cover your b***. Breaches happen. Period. P.S. I'll bet that the janitorial company that cleans your building can get all the passwords they want. +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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