RE: errors

David - I tried everything to get rid of the jobs.  I could not change,
hold, or end the jobs.  Where would I look to determine what the problem
was?  I have sent a main storage dump to IBM - I don't really expect to hear
from IBM in reference to this dump.  We did run srvtrc on the jobs that were
running.  I have pages and pages of trace information.  I have wrapped
joblogs, history, lic logs.  I really don't know what I'm looking for.  I am
afraid that we will experience this problem again if we don't find the cause
of this problem.     
I agree that it sounds like os400 when you can not flush a job - but try to
argue with IBM.


 
        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Kahn, David [JNJFR] [SMTP:DKahn1@JNJFR.JNJ.com]
        Sent:   Thursday, September 23, 1999 8:48 AM
        To:     'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
        Subject:        RE: errors

        Debbie,

        I don't know BPCS but it looks suspiciously like a classic bug in an
error
        handling routine causing the program to jump into the error routine
where it
        again errors, jumps back into the routine and so on ad infinitum.

        Occasionally you get this kind of thing being triggered off by an
        interactive job losing contact with a 5250 emulation session. As
this
        happened to 5 jobs simultaneously you may have had some kind of
        communications glitch(?).

        When you can't cancel run-away jobs you can sometimes contain them
by
        changing their priority to 99. 10 minutes after they were "ended"
with the
        *IMMED option, you can should be able to clobber them with the
ENDJOBABN
        command. This usually, but not always, gets rid of them. If that
doesn't
        work then you're generally stuck with them until the next IPL. Did
you try
        these steps?

        It's one thing for IBM to say it's a BPCS problem, but no matter
what the
        bug if you can't flush a problem job out of your system that has to
be an
        OS/400 problem, surely?

        Dave Kahn
        Johnson & Johnson International (Ethicon) France
        Phone : +33 1 55 00 3180
        Email :  dkahn1@jnjfr.jnj.com (work)
                   dkahn@cix.co.uk      (home)


        -----Message d'origine-----
        De: Debbie Helms [mailto:DHelms@Lance.com]
        Date: 22 September 1999 22:53
        À: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
        Objet: errors


        I had an interesting problem (opportunity) today.  Our 640 locked up
around
        10:30 this morning.  We had about 5 jobs in QINTER that brought the
system
        to its knees.  We could not cancel the jobs in any form.  IBM could
not help
        us cancel the jobs.  Finally we decided the only option was to IPL.
The
        joblogs wrapped so we do not know what exactly happened.  Listed
below is a
        portion of the joblog that repeated itself.  In 40 seconds it had
repeated
        this 8,400 pages.  IBM thinks the problem is in BPCS.  I don't know
what to
        think.  If anyone has ever heard or seen this please let me know.   
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