• Subject: Re: AS/400 on alt.hacker
  • From: Chuck Lewis <clewis@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:33:19 +0100

Kia has the "hole" plugged !!!

The user id and password that alt.hacker posted no longer work !!!

Apparently one of us got through to SOMEONE :-)

I called over there yesterday afternoon and left "Larry Wong" a voice mail. The
number in the post here wouldn't work because the area code had changed.

Chuck

Bill Paris wrote:

> Unfortunately there are methods which I won't reveal in public that
> circumvent Antisniff and any other automated packet-sniffing detectors.
>
> Hopefully Kia received the message and disabled that particular account.
> Chuck has told me that he was able to get a sign-on screen as of late this
> afternoon, yet I wasn't able to using 3 different ISP accounts. Perhaps Kia
> is restricting access via IP ranges. The only thing in my mind that makes
> this a security breach as that a UN and PW were supplied along with the
> address and port. Then again, I'd also prefer a secure connection (https) vs
> a non secure connection (http) to my AS/400 if I had to setup this method of
> access for salesmen, etc.
>
> Bill Paris
> Sorrento Cheese Co., Inc.
> 716-823-6262 x376
> bparis@sccmail.com
>
> >OK Mr. Tricky Guy :-) just kidding !
> >
> >What about Antisniff at  http://www.l0pht.com/ which says it can "detect
> >intruders who have installed "packet sniffers" on a network and are
> monitoring
> >network traffic" ???
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >Ed Davidson wrote:
> >
> >> You forget, these are computers.  We can tell them to do something and
> leave
> >> them for days/months/years at a time to accomplish the task.
> >>
> >> You can have packet capture software capture what you specify.  Do I want
> a
> >> password for JoeBlow?  Tell the software to only capture packets with
> >> JoeBlow in them, and then capture all packets from/to JowBlows computer.
> >> Save the data to disk.  When I come back to my computer, do a find over
> the
> >> packets for the word JoeBlow.  You can kinda tell if the packet is a
> signon
> >> packet.   If it is, the password is in the same packet just under the
> signon
> >> code.
> >>
> >> Specify just to capture packets going to a specific IP address, at port
> 20,
> >> 21, 25, and 110.  Passwords are sent in the clear on these ports.
> >>
> >> The question isn't if you will be hacked, the question is will the hacker
> >> get in?   My site gets about 44k hits a week, about 1000 unique visitors.
> >> Very small by internet standards.  About every other day there is someone
> >> trying to do something to my internet server that they shouldn't.
> >>
> >> This information is available all over the internet.  Anyone looking for
> a
> >> thrill can find it and cause damage to someone.
>
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