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I work for an outsourcer so I'd have to say good experiences. *grin* Though seriously it greatly depends on your needs. For a company with a technology focus (ie. a telecommunications company, or the like) I think outsourcing is probably not a good idea. You need to rely on cutting edge technology to cope in rapidly changing business environments and you can't necessarily do that if you are buffered from the front line by an external supplier. If, however, you are a company who want to focus on core business and IT isn't core business for you then getting someone else to do it for you is a good thing. Again also depends on the outsourcer. There are some companies out there I wouldn't wish on anyone. I would say choose wisely and bargain hard. Regards James Turnbull Senior Technical Consultant Kaz Computer Services 6/66 Wentworth Avenue Surrey Hills, 2010. Sydney, NSW AUSTRALIA Work: 061 2 9844 0380 Home: 061 2 9565 4954 Mob: 0411 866 112 Roger Boucher <RBoucher@stanpac.com> on 05/08/99 10:05:33 Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To: "'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'" <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com> cc: (bcc: James Turnbull/Sydney/KAZ/AU) Subject: Outsourcing (was IS Assets) This reply got me thinking (always a dangerous thing to be avoided at all costs). Does anyone out there have any experiences with outsourcing services for IS? If so, are those experiences generally good or bad? What positives and negatives? Just wondering... Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: HankHeath@aol.com [mailto:HankHeath@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 2:27 PM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: Re: IS Assets To summarize responses to this point: If you are part of the IS team asked to value the IS shop in a merger or acquisition, you can say * the hardware is worth the purchase price minus scheduled depreciation * the purchased software is a very small fraction of the original purchase price * developed software is worth whatever the purchaser sees it to be (this may be a major feature of the transaction, as in a Web-based business, or meaningless, as in home grown accounting software) * the staff is worth whatever it costs to replace the half of them that leave. Pretty dismal, unless you are a Web-based business. It would seem that generally we do not contribute much to the net worth of the company, from an accounting perspective. At the same time, we do contribute a lot to the operational costs to the enterprise. In view of this, if I was palnning to sell a company, the first thing I would do is outsource IS. I could rationalize that since there is little inherent value to be passed on, it makes sense to minimize the expenses by turning the operations over to a professional firm. When the sale was transacted, the new owner would not have to worry about software maintenance and staff turnover. They would walk into a stable environment. Does this make sense? Hank Heath In a message dated 8/3/99 8:22:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, HankHeath@aol.com writes: << Here's a question that came up recently: If we are selling a business, how do we value the worth of the IS assets? In otherwords, on a balance sheet, what value is retained from IS during a transfer to another owner? I can value the hardware easily. However, there are also values that can be tacked on for software purchased and developed, the unique industry knowledge of the staff (if the new owner can retain them), and the ruggedness of the environment. Has anyone a way of attaching a value to any of these last items? >> +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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