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Thanks Simon. The offending SETLL is using one of the two format names (MNTHAP). The SETLL on the other format name (when loading the first half of the split screen subfile) does not take long at all. When record is not found it simply drops out of the loop rather than loading record to the subfile. The logical does not use DYNSLT. The database is, for all intents and purposes, frozen and has been for about one year. The SETLL and the READE are all by partial key (the first key - invoice number - of four keys). Neither physical has any deleted records. I do not profess to be proficient at all the intricacies, but I did notice some interesting things regarding the number of file members... Here are the physical file descriptions... Note: C7MTAP is the physical over which the "slow" format is built. File C7MTAP: Member List Source Creation Last Change Member Size Type Date Date Time Records ALEX 10240 03/11/96 07/20/97 21:16:23 1 Text: C7MTAP 10240 03/11/96 07/20/97 21:16:23 0 Text: Monthly Accounts Payable File YOUNG 18432 03/13/96 07/20/97 21:16:23 11 Text: Total number of members . . . . . . . . . . : 3 Total number of members not available . . . : 0 Total records . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 12 Total deleted records . . . . . . . . . . . : 0 Total of member sizes . . . . . . . . . . . : 38912 File C8HIST: Member List Source Creation Last Change Member Size Type Date Date Time Records MBR01 286279680 08/08/86 06/25/99 07:38:49 1122007 Text: Accounts Payable History Physical File MBR02 23552 08/08/86 07/20/97 23:57:35 58 Text: archive member MBR03 9216 01/20/89 07/20/97 23:57:35 0 Text: Total number of members . . . . . . . . . . : 3 Total number of members not available . . . : 0 Total records . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 1122065 Total deleted records . . . . . . . . . . . : 0 Total of member sizes . . . . . . . . . . . : 286312448 and here is the logical file description: Files accessed by logical file PFILE File Library LF Format C7MTAP SP1LIB MNTHAP C8HIST SP1LIB APHIST Number of data members . . . . . . . . . : 7 Based on file . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : C7MTAP Library . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SP1LIB Member . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : MBR01 Logical file format . . . . . . . . . . : MNTHAP Number of index entries . . . . . . . . : 1 Number of member accesses . . . . . . . : 0 Based on file . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : C7MTAP Library . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SP1LIB Member . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : MBR02 Logical file format . . . . . . . . . . : MNTHAP Number of index entries . . . . . . . . : 10 Number of member accesses . . . . . . . : 0 Based on file . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : C7MTAP Library . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SP1LIB Member . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : MBR03 Logical file format . . . . . . . . . . : MNTHAP Number of index entries . . . . . . . . : 0 Number of member accesses . . . . . . . : 0 Based on file . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : C7MTAP Library . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SP1LIB Member . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : MBR04 Logical file format . . . . . . . . . . : MNTHAP Number of index entries . . . . . . . . : 0 Number of member accesses . . . . . . . : 0 Based on file . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : C8HIST Library . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SP1LIB Member . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : MBR01 Logical file format . . . . . . . . . . : APHIST Number of index entries . . . . . . . . : 1122007 Number of member accesses . . . . . . . : 0 Based on file . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : C8HIST Library . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SP1LIB Member . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : MBR02 Logical file format . . . . . . . . . . : APHIST Number of index entries . . . . . . . . : 58 Number of member accesses . . . . . . . : 0 Based on file . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : C8HIST Library . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : SP1LIB Member . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : MBR03 Logical file format . . . . . . . . . . : APHIST Number of index entries . . . . . . . . : 0 Number of member accesses . . . . . . . : 0 -----Original Message----- From: Simon Coulter [mailto:shc@flybynight.com.au] Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 10:17 PM To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com Subject: Re: Sanity check Hello Roger, Is the SETLL using a format name or a file name? Does the code do anything else when the record is not found? Is the code behaving identically for found records and not found records? Does the LF38 use DYNSLT? Perhaps the database has changed sufficiently over the years to result in a sparse index and DB is simply taking a while to dynamically check the records -- although you should see signs of that with found records also. One other possibilty is to check the number of deleted records in the file. When was the last time a RGZPFM was performed? Regards, Simon Coulter. «»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«» «» FlyByNight Software AS/400 Technical Specialists «» «» Eclipse the competition - run your business on an IBM AS/400. «» «» «» «» Phone: +61 3 9419 0175 Mobile: +61 0411 091 400 «» «» Fax: +61 3 9419 0175 mailto: shc@flybynight.com.au «» «» «» «» Windoze should not be open at Warp speed. «» «»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«»«» //--- forwarded letter ------------------------------------------------------- > X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Date: Fri, 23 Jul 99 16:21:48 -0700 > From: "Roger Boucher" <RBoucher@stanpac.com> > To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > Reply-To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com > Subject: Sanity check > > I have a user (controller) who swears up and down that an invoice inquiry on > our legacy system (an old AS/400 kept around for inquiry purposes only) is > taking much longer than it used to. I tested it and found that it works > quickly if record is found and takes about 30 seconds when record not found. > The problem point (debug) seems to be a SETLL statement on a multi-record > format LF38. The logical is not damaged, the physicals on which it is based > are not damaged. The Edit Rebuild of Access Paths screen shows nothing > pending. > > Does anyone know anything else to look for? > Or Is this just a case of selective memory on the part of our friendly > neighborhood user? > > Any help would be appreciated... > Thanks. > +--- > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > +--- > +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +--- +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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