• Subject: [Fwd: Ebay... Netcraft and the AS/400 as Web Server !!]
  • From: Chuck Lewis <CLEWIS@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:00:27 -0500

Some interesting info to go along with the AS/400 as Web Server !!

Chuck


  • Subject: Re: Ebay... Netcraft and the AS/400 as Web Server !!
  • From: ign_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx(IGNITE400 MEMBERS LIST)
  • Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:46:23 -0700
  • Delivered-To: CLEWIS@IQUEST.NET
  • Organization: ATS
From: edsmith@ibmuser.com (Ed Smith)

Netcraft has plenty of data for the AS/400. I've been recording the
AS/400-related numbers in database file for quite a while now and wrote
a Net.Data macro to present a barchart at http://www.ibmuser/com/ers

The thing is, you have to know the names of the server software products
that run on an AS/400. And even that doesn't always give you strictly
AS/400 servers. For example, how can you tell if a Domino server is
running on AS/400 hardware? What about the Netscape server? Until a
couple months ago, any server that reported itself as running IBM HTTP
Server was an AS/400. But the IBM HTTP Server now runs on other
hardware, and the Netcraft survey doesn't parse out enough of the server
software name to differentiate the various platforms.

I haven't updated my database in a couple of months because I'm not sure
how to handle the loss of integrity in Netcraft's IBM HTTP Server
numbers. I don't want to visit each and every site to find out. But my
point is that Netcraft has always had adequate data for finding out how
many AS/400 webservers are operating on the Internet.




IGNITE400 MEMBERS LIST wrote:

> I get an e-mail from Mike at Netcraft each month on their latest Web
> Server survey's. Over 3 months ago I asked him why there was NO data
> included for the AS/400. Be SURE to drop Mike a note at:
> mhp@netcraft.com (Mike Prettejohn)  and voice your concerns !!!
>
> Here is the July 199 Netcraft Web Server Survey
>
> Received Thu, 8 JUL 1999 20:51:36+0100 (BST) from mhp@netcraft.com
> (Mike Prettejohn)
>       The July 1999 Netcraft Web Server Survey is available;
>
>    Large gain for CnG/FreeServe
>
>    CnG makes a notable jump from just under 90,000 sites to 147,000.
> CnG
>    provides the hosting service for [1]FreeServe, which announced
>    prelimiary details of its IPO this month. Valulation forecasts for
> the
>    one year old business stretch as high as $3.2bn.
>
>    Thawte gains Bureau of Export Approval for Strong Encryption
> enabling
>    certificates
>
>    [2]Thawte [3]announced that it had obtained US Department of
>    Commerce Bureau of Export Adminsitration clearance to issue
>    certificates that can enable 128-bit encryption sessions between
>    servers capable of 128-bit encryption and conventional web
> browsers.
>    Previously, only [4]Verisign had approval to issue these
>    certificates. Verisign has been able to command a [5]premium price
>    for strong encryption enabling certificates, charging up to $1295
>    against $349 for a conventional certificate. Traditionally Thawte
> has
>    priced its certificates more cheaply than Verisign, and it will be
>    interesting to see the price point at which they enter the strong
>    encryption certificate market.
>
>
>
> - Top placed developers with numbers of hosts responding and
> percentage share -
>
> Developer                                     July 1999   Percent
> Change
> Apache                                          3713470     56.28
> -0.07
> Microsoft                                       1457389     22.09
> -0.32
> Netscape                                         484829      7.35
> 0.13
> O'Reilly                                          91513      1.39
> -0.09
>
> - Top placed servers with numbers of hosts responding and percentage
> share -
>
> Server                                        July 1999   Percent
> Change
> Apache                                          3713470     56.28
> -0.07
> Microsoft-IIS                                   1452333     22.01
> -0.32
> Netscape-Enterprise                              386927      5.86
> 0.21
> CnG                                              147211      2.23
> 0.78
> Rapidsite                                        113025      1.71
> -0.04
> WebSitePro                                        87293      1.32
> -0.04
> Stronghold                                        79580      1.21
> -0.05
> Zeus                                              79206      1.20
> 0.03
> thttpd                                            70414      1.07
> -0.06
> WebSTAR                                           63347      0.96
> -0.06
>
>
> References
>
>   1. http://www.freeserve.net/
>   2. http://www.thawte.com/
>   3. http://www.thawte.com/press/sgc.html
>   4. http://www.verisign.com/
>   5. http://www.verisign.com/server/prod/index.html
>
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - this list - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> - - - -
>
> To unsubscribe from the Netcraft Web Server Survey Announcements list
> send the message
>
> unsubscribe webserver-survey
>
> to majordomo@netcraft.com
> To resubscribe send the message
>
> subscribe webserver-survey
>
>       The July 1999 Netcraft Web Server Survey is available;
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Neil Palmer wrote:
>
> <Well, according to Netcraft, and you can check this yourself at
> http://www.netcraft.com/whats/ they're running: www.ebay.com
> www.ebay.com is running Microsoft-IIS/3.0 Microsoft-IIS is also being
> used by Walt Disney, Compaq, Nasdaq, and The National Football League.
> probably no surprise considering it's "reliability"   :-)
>
> Looks like some vendors might be paying them for plugs, as it also
> tells you what other suckers are running IIS if the site you search is
> running it. Some other web servers get a plug too (Apache), but if you
> find an AS/400 site there's no little plug for other AS/400 sites.
>
> Examine some AS/400 sites - it says sites you examine will be included
> in future surveys.
>
> There's no AS/400s showing on their page at
> http://www.netcraft.com/survey/ (I guess that's "other"). You'll be
> disappointed if you check  www.search400.com
>
> Note there's a separate link to check an SSL site:
> http://www.netcraft.com/cgi-bin/Survey/sslwhats/ And you can check for
> sites containing specific things in their name (like   "as400" is
> found in "as400.rochester.ibm.com" at http://www.netcraft.com/
>
> PS - this check isn't foolproof -there may be multiple servers for the
> URL,  load balancing, etc. (buy more than likely you  would be running
> the same software).
>
> Neil Palmer         DPS Data Processing Services Canada Ltd.
>                                             AS/400~~~~~
> Markham,  Ontario,   Canada    ___________          ___  ~
> Phone: (905) 474-4890  x303   |OOOOOOOOOO| ________  o|__||
> = Cell.: (416) 565-1682  x303   |__________|_|______|_|______)
> Fax:   (905) 474-4898          oo      oo   oo  oo   OOOo=o\
> mailto:NeilP@DPSlink.com    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> http://www.DPSlink.com        AS/400  The Ultimate Business Server
>
>
>> Dennis D Pearson <ddp@coral.com> on 99-07-15 11:21:58
>>
>> Please respond to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
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>> To:   MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
>> cc:    (bcc: Neil Palmer/Dpslink)
>>
>> Subject:  Re: Ebay...
>>
>> Maybe the AS/400 to hold the data for integrity and then
>> populate a data warehouse on the IBM Netfinity.
>> But then anything has to be better than what they are using
>> today, whatever it is.
>>
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