• Subject: RE: IBM pushing Java
  • From: "Simon Coulter" <shc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Mar 99 00:13:11 +1000
  • Importance: Normal


Hello Russ,

Well said!  Not enough shops (in fact, sod all) perform peer reviews.  They all 
should (except 
possibly one-man shops) because (in no particular order):

1/ It ensures shop standards are met.

2/ It ensures the program is reasonably close to the specification

3/ It allows junior programmers to learn from the more experienced ("Oh, yeah, 
that was a bit 
silly wasn't it?")

4/ It allows senior programers to learn from the juniors ("When did that 
op-code appear?")

There should be reviews at all stages of development:

a/ Specification review
b/ Pseudo code review
c/ Code review
d/ test plan review

Of course all this needs to be budgeted and persuading management that it's 
necessary is 
harder than it should be.

Regards,
Simon Coulter.

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> From: "rpopeil" <Russ.Popeil@ac.avnet.com>
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
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> Subject: RE: IBM pushing Java
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> 
> his seems more a need of shop standards and programmer management, and code
> reviews alas not usually done in small shops.
> 
> Russ Popeil
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> [mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of nina jones
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 12:52 PM
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: IBM pushing Java
> 
> 
> > other hand, some languages lend themselves to this better than others.
> > As an example, I remember a COBOL program written by a fellow student
> > in university 20 years ago.  It was the most easy to read program I'd
> > ever seen and there were no comments in it.  This student graduated
> > at the top of his class and I doubt if he ever wrote another COBOL
> > program since!
> 
> i think some people's programming style is easier to follow than others.
> doesn't
> really matter on the language.  well, maybe some!
> 
> years ago, we inherited a client that used a lady that did not do anything
> straight forward.  in frustration, once i asked how on earth she handled
> fixing
> problems.  they said she'd list her programs, go in the conference room,
> spread
> them out, and color code them.
> 
> i like code that you can look at and follow, that has relevent, up to date
> comments - with explainations before major sections of code as to what it's
> for,
> and routines sectioned off.  and one more pet peeve - old commented out
> code.  if
> you don't need it, get rid of it!
> 
> this week i was in california, and had to debug a program written by our
> favorite
> former employee (haha).  he'd done some modifications for them last summer,
> and
> it had never worked correctly!   i had to weed thru 10 pages of tricky code,
> without a single comment.  a 3 excedrin special.
> 
> nj
> 
> 
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